Rampage VI Extreme is pure disaster

[grayl]

Current rig.

Rampage VI Extreme
Intel 7980XE
Intel SSD 900P 480gb
Samsung SM863 2tb
WD Gold 10TB x4 (RAID 10)
Megaraid 9361-8i
AMD Vega FE
64GB Trident Z RGB, DDR4 3600MHz, CL17
+ custom WC loop


I have never experienced so much trouble than from this MB.

Bios 0802 is causing random lockups (every 15-30min) and gets stuck on the boot
Bios 1002 can't shutdown (goes to just back to login screen and gets stuck on the book, so this is not viable option too.
Bios 1004 "works" but it still has stability problems. It hangs and gets stuck on boot "only" every few days and it wont overclock as well as in 1002 (event with everything in stock, no overclocking or XMP).

...then we get to Fall Update compatibility issues, well I have tried to install different W10 builds on every bios version (except 1003 as it has same problems as 0802 and 1002). After 20-30 installs the conclusion is that board is not compatible with the Fall Update on any bios versions OR any driver versions available OR any ISO versions from the MS (September and November versions).

Immediately after clean install Edge freeze while browsing, explorer hangs when creating shortcut to the desktop... so basically windows build 1709 is not usable. Some times I got usable Windows when I upgraded from the 1703 to 1709 but still I'm not too confident on this route also as I got random problems also which are not present on 1703.

Only stable version for me is currently 1703. I have tested with other cpu and memory with the same results.

I noticed that all these issues were quite wide spread as other complain from the same issues (here and other forums) and latest posts from the MS support forum is not encouraging as they blame Asus from their broken bios.

...then all this with failed VRM cooler design is enough.

Even thought all these problems (well except the VRM design) are correctable by the future BIOS updates I'm going to RMA this board and send it back.
Asus lost my faith and soon going to test Asrock Fatal1ty X299 Professional Gaming i9 XE.

I have never seen this broken flagship MB from Asus. It's quite a mystery how they release the product when they must have known in advance that their BIOS is not stable enough. I'm not going to be beta tester with the workstation which I should work and rely on my daily work.

End of RANT.

[grayl]

restsugavan wrote:
Please waiting to touch the amazing performance of RAMPAGE you'll be see.

I have too used almost all Rampage versions in the past and yes, I acknowledge that current situation is bad for all (MS, Intel and MB manufacturers). First Intel releasing chipset early in rush which leave Asus and others in difficult position. Then MS released Fall Update which has been one of the most problematic update for Windows 10.

...yes it takes time to sort it out, it might take few months and that's why I'm trying other boards to see if some other boards are more mature than this (can't go any worse than this anyway). I don't want to stay on Z270 or X99 once I got taste of 7980XE 😄

[JustinThyme]

grayl wrote:
When you buy the most expensive X299 board and install the latest BIOS from the web site (1002) which causes shutdown problem is not OK. Even that you easily find the resolution from the forums.

When BIOS is causing this basic problems, the probability of having some more serious issues are very high (as what I'm experiencing), as a software developer I'm amazed with the quality of the BIOS. There is nothing you can defend on Asus on it, if you buy a new car which you can't turnoff or star do you think it's a acceptable? Do you think it's acceptable that you need to read forums and do some workarounds on very basic function? Asus rushed unfinished product (BIOS is possible to upgrade, but it needs stable enough for the release), simple as that. People should return and RMA their boards to put pressure to Asus and not accept this situation.

Sorry, but honestly I have last seen this kind of problems when I was running Windows 95 (I'm not kidding) but in 2017 you can't shutdown the computer from the latest BIOS without workarounds... It's good that some are happy with the board 😄

Brother you really need to get it together and straight before ranting. The shut down issue is only there with Win 10 FC update and is NOT BIOS related. If you are a software developer Im Donald Trumps Father.

[grayl]

JustinThyme wrote:
Im Donald Trumps Father.

Hi Trumps father!
Stop making "false" news! 😉

Shutdown issue is fixed with BIOS update, it could be also fault of Fall Update or combination of both but on this current situation I call this as BIOS bug.

Do you call other Fall Update problems as MS problem or BIOS? MS Software engineers call this as bug in BIOS. Maybe Trumps father knows better 😉

[Silent_Scone]

grayl wrote:
Hi Trumps father!
Stop making "false" news! 😉

Shutdown issue is fixed with BIOS update, it could be also fault of Fall Update or combination of both but on this current situation I call this as BIOS bug.

Do you call other Fall Update problems as MS problem or BIOS? MS Software engineers call this as bug in BIOS. Maybe Trumps father knows better 😉

Most rational people would find the root of the bug before calling it anything.

[CharlieH]

I agree this MB and BIOS is the worst I have ever experienced from ASUS. Not to mention other issues like the VROC key etc. This is my last purchase of ASUS tech. I still have to double boot due to VROC and Hyper-V with the latest BIOS and Windows version. I cant OC at all with VROC and Hyper-V etc. Early or not this has been a very bad experience for me and the cost is very high for terrible experiences not just a few issues but a plethora of issues. So I agree with many of the posters out here I am sorely disappointed in ASUS they used to put out much better MBs/BIOS and they never took so long to iron issues out that did come up.

[JustinThyme]

grayl wrote:
Hi Trumps father!
Stop making "false" news! 😉

Shutdown issue is fixed with BIOS update, it could be also fault of Fall Update or combination of both but on this current situation I call this as BIOS bug.

Do you call other Fall Update problems as MS problem or BIOS? MS Software engineers call this as bug in BIOS. Maybe Trumps father knows better 😉

Trumps father does know better.
Machines run fine until FC update and there is no issue with failure to shut down or UAC prompts on restart. Install new FC update and you get problems. The turds in trumps toilet could figure that one out much less a so called software developer that is running a known unstable FC in the first place.....
At the risk of sounding political...
MS is known to have a leftist mindset to where EVERYTHING is someone else's fault. This is no exception. How about the fact that a great deal of machines where the FC update fails to complete? Or the massive majority of apps and drivers that have to be reinstalled after? I guess those are all on anything but M$? The fails of FC are atrocious and all over multiple forums. Personally I prefer to run the latest builds and Im on 1703. The insider previews were more stable than the final product!!
Im not saying new technology and early adopters don't have their share of issues, I am saying that none of yours are on the BIOS. They are user error and OS related.

[Keats]

JustinThyme wrote:
Shut down fix is rather easy, disable fast start up.....done.

I have heard this a lot but I didn't have to do it to fix the issue. Just power settings: don't allow wake ups and disable hybrid sleep.

[Homewrecker]

While I was testing the board, CPU & memory prior to case installation I've done multiple clean installs using the 1004 BIOS and build 1709 and have had no issues so far. Just sayin'.

[restsugavan]

I think VRM is not issue here. Maybe PCIe-RAID card issue incompattible with UEFI BIOS. 7980XE working witg R6E very well since 0802 on my system.
1002 BIOS is good but it may cause intel turbo boost 3.0 app crashed. 1003 and 1004 are on par together.

[grayl]

restsugavan wrote:
I think VRM is not issue here. Maybe PCIe-RAID card issue incompattible with UEFI BIOS. 7980XE working witg R6E very well since 0802 on my system.
1002 BIOS is good but it may cause intel turbo boost 3.0 app crashed. 1003 and 1004 are on par together.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1632665/intel-x299-socket-2066-vrm-thread/950#post_26444162

There is good post comparing R6E & FXE VRM design. I do run monoblock, but want to test Kryos from Aqua. In R6E without putting small noisy fan or some other fan setups taking care of VRM cooling, VRM is going to cause throttling.

I didn't notice Turbo Boost problem on BIOS 1002 but the amount of different problems people are facing is direct indicator that current status of the BIOS that is not stable. Also when you publish so many BIOS revisions in just 1-2 months tells me that Asus is trying to solve at least in acceptable fashion that people don't return their boards (or RMA them).

I do have tested without RAID card, without success. I did how ever notice that Intel Optane 900P has some driver issues with the NVMe. When working with VROC driver, many randon issues were solved.

Today I'm receiving new RAID card (MegaRAID 9460-16i) which can run NVME drives if it's going to change anything on this matter. Intel 900p have PLP (power loss protection) but it lost data during testing (when I was experiencing random lockups) when running VROC drivers.

I'm not sure if this is caused by OS, driver, bios or combination of them but this is first time I have encountered data corruption / loss for very long time as I have always run my drives from the Megaraid RAID controllers.