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Rampage VI Apex (LGA2066, Intel X299) - info, experience, BIOSes etc.

FlanK3r
Level 13
Intel public HEDT CPus with platfrom Intel X299 at Computex 2017. The CPU reviews are still under embargo for short time ,-). But some informations are officially out and OK with Intels NDA.

Intel X299 is really highend chipset for enthusiast CPUs. This year very powerfull, much more than anyone hoped. Because this year is AMD also very strong at CPU side (Announced not only 8 cores with SMT, but also up to 16C with SMT for AMD X399), Intel will launch step by step 6C/12T, 8C/16T, 10C/20T....Everything?:) Nooo, continue it with 12C/24T, 14C/28T, 16C/32T and new flagship 18C/36T !!!


New LGA2066 will be new one after 2011v3...Great value is, you can put in two generation CPUs. More info bellow.
1) Kabylake-X with new CPUs Core i5 X a Core i7 X. Those CPUs are KabyLake-X. Its basically Kabylake with more capacitors and bigger heatspreader. This could help with higher overclocking than classic Kabylakes. Kabylake-X have support only for dualchannel mode (up to 2666 MHz 1.2V). After XMP mode or manualy tweaking you can except everything between 3600 MHz to 4400 MHz at DRAM effective frequency.
2)Skylake-X, are HEDT processors Core i7 X and new Core i9 X. Starting as 6C/12T and up to crazy 18C/36T
There is support for Quadchannel memory. Based at first results on web, the memory clock we can expect overclocking of RAM around 3200 to 3800 MHz. All depends on type of memory chips, quality of IMC particular piece of CPU.

APEX series replaced Extreme series in extreme overclocking segment (yes, all fans of DICE, LN2 and LHe are focus directly at this board). This board broked many WRs after first day 🙂 There is exmaple with informations about records from 31.5.2017



Now the board mainly.

Motherboard has nice X-design, what means "eXtreme" and looking it more geeks 🙂 "get out of line". You can see white "X" at PCB also.


In the right upper corner is OC zone with many switchs and buttons. I do not write more about all buttons and functions. You can ask us in discussion.


I like this corner with SATAs in acute angle.

Description of the board.


How to use multi GPU setup (SLI/CF)

-it depends also at CPU, two CPUs have 16 lines, some 28 and few CPUs full of 48 PCIe 3.0 lines



Better DIMM2 slot (for two M.2), "older" version has Maximus IX Apex

So, lets to do serious overclocking guys 🙂 Im looking forward at next results.
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FlanK3r
Level 13
Will see, but in heory, yes, for LN2 could be better as example Apex vs Hero in Z270.
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tistou77
Level 13
Yes, I'll wait to see the tests, but I guess the R6E will also be good (see a little better) in h24
Sorry for my english 😄


Case: Lian Li A77F
MB: Rampage VI Extreme Encore
CPU: i9 10980XE
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB Royal 4x8Gb @4000 C16
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080ti XC Ultra
PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 1000W
OS: Intel Optane 905P PCIe
DATA: Samsung 980 Pro
SOUND: Asus Xonar Phoebus

Feklar
Level 8
I'm sure the Apex will be less than The Extreme. That's the way it is with the Z270 series. I would guess $600 usd for the Extreme and $400 for the Apex.

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Vlada011
Level 10
I think price of Apex will be arround 350-360 and Extreme arround 450-460$.
ASUS ask 500$ for Black Edition I doubt they will ask so much just like that.
Again many people save cost on motherboards and don't want to pay GTX1080Ti for motherboard.
Because market will be full of motherboards 300-350$ with similar function.

Extreme is insane motherboard, this model is nicer than Edition 10.
At least for me. She will be my favorite for X299




Feklar
Level 8
KBL X will not work on the R6E though, only SKL X. If you want to use KBL X or SKL X, you need an Apex. Odd.

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LG 38GL950G Monitor +
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Feklar wrote:
KBL X will not work on the R6E though, only SKL X. If you want to use KBL X or SKL X, you need an Apex. Odd.



Rampage VI Extreme does not support Intel® Core™ i7-7740X and i5-7640X processors
I don't care for 4 core CPU, if I need such platform and dual channel I woul wait Coffee Lake and new 6 core mainstream, 4 core is dead for me from 2015.
There is chance maybe to RVIE support most expensive Intels with 18 cores.
Who care for i5 on 2 time more expensive motherboard than CPU and dual channel on mobo with 8 DIMM slots.

X299 worth only because two models with Turbo Boost 3.0 4.5GHz... everything else will be outperform and better option AMD.
Only 1999$ worth Intel will be stronger than 850$ worth Threadripper in multi apps. But I hope 8 core and 10 core because high clock will work great in games.


I just looked ASUS Rampage VI Apex and ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon are great complete.
They will really look cool together.
These days I will search little about Poseidon and what customers think.
Visually it's perfect and graphic processor is excellent.

Intel hurry with Skylake and Kaby Lake Xtreme because they prepare something completely new for 2019.
AMD surprised them with new architecture and then they just want to hurry up with X299 when AMD show up with Threadripper.
Because of that Intel hurry with i7 Coffer Lake 6 core 95W Z370 - Maximus 10 Extreme
He will outperform any processor in gaming fps, at least for few fps.
2017 will be most interesting year last 10 years in IT industry.

sunseraphic
Level 8
It seems that the PCI-E 3.0 x4 slot is based on PCH, which is a little disappointing. Because I have a Intel 750 PCI-E HHHL SSD, which I intend to connect with CPU directly.

So my question is:

If I already have 2 Graphics Card inserted (SLI), is it possible to insert the PCI-E SSD in one of the other two PCI-E x16 slots without making the Graphics Cards downgrade to x8?

Thank you very much.

Best Regards

Menthol
Level 14
sunseraphic,
Probably not if the lanes are allocated similar to X99 boards, why is it necessary to run the drive off CPU lanes? these drives work just fine off the PCH on Z270 boards

Menthol wrote:
sunseraphic,
Probably not if the lanes are allocated similar to X99 boards, why is it necessary to run the drive off CPU lanes? these drives work just fine off the PCH on Z270 boards


Honestly, I indeed know it is hopeless to run the PCI-E SSD on CPU PCI-E Lane on this MoBo. This question is just a struggling 🙂

About my requirement, It is not necessary, but nice to have.

You can consider it just as kind of "religious enthusiasm", maybe.

Let me explain:

It is believed that CPU based PCI-E Lanes would provide low latency and higher speed because they are exclusive for the device. On contrast, all devices on PCH would share DMI to communicate with the core.

Let's consider the bandwidth of DMI 3.0, which is basically the same as the bandwidth of PCI-E 3.0. When there are traffics from multiple devices other than the PCH based PCI-E, the DMI could not assure all bandwidth being reserved for PCI-E on PCH. It indicates that for the devices on PCH based PCI-E, there maybe a higher latency and lower (actual) bandwidth.

Hope somebody could provide some evidence to prove I am wrong

Hopper64
Level 15
A question along the same line: is the dimm.2 wired directly to the CPU?
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