Is VROC worth it?

[knotted]

I have seen all the problems people on this board have had with getting VROC to work on the Rampage boards. Special thanks to JustinThyme for all the info provided.
My question is, was it worth it? Is there a noticeable difference in boot times, game level loads, programs opening etc. Or is it only on large file transfers?
Web reviews are full of synthetic benchmarks, but that doesn't help much in real life.

[BlackhatEspeed]

Do you think it's possible to VROC the CPU dimm and the hyper expansion card together into a RAID 0?

[meierdaniel]

just to update u guys
I got the SSD7103 from Highpoint as a replacement of the 7102.
Just tested the SSD7103 with 4x 970
Target was speed, securety and bootabel without vroc and intel ssd m.2
Now im realy happy with raid 10 and will use it as my daily system.



Raid0


Raid 10

[BlackhatEspeed]

9900X with VROC, about to add in the expansion card finally got one, but just 2 Intel 7600P is producing insane results.

[BlackhatEspeed]

So after using my 7600P drives for a year and even comparing them to a 970 Evo Plus newer drives that have the new controllers I'm still not impressed by the Samsungs and I'll explain why, yes for raw transfer the Samsung drives write and read a tiny bit faster on PCH, but the Intel 7600Ps on VROC crush everything out right now in almost every category for SEQ read and write speeds when it comes to more than 1 file, for 1 file yes in PCH it can transfer a bit faster but VROC drive array with the expansion card is CRUSHING all the new drives even in RAID 0 on PCH.

I made a few benchmarks here to demonstrate:


Here is the VROC Drives with just 2 Intel 7600P's keep in mind it will support 6. So you could expect these numbers to be 3X faster for the fully extended VROC. With a 9900X


Here is the PCH Drives with 2 Intel 7600Ps With a 9900X keep in mind it will only support 2, but this should be the boot drive IMHO and I'll explain why in my bottom line at the bottom of this post.



Here is the newest most expensive Samsung Evo Plus in RAID 0 PCH benchmarks with an i9-9900K


Here is the newest most expensive PNY XLR8 2TB CS3030 in RAID 0 PCH benchmarks with an i9-9900KS

Bottom Line:

If you want to transfer 1 large file really fast, then PCH wise the newer drives will win... barely. But if you are comparing Read speed and gaming which means you are reading and writing a bunch of different files and different sizes or just reading a bunch of random file sizes for games which is usually how a game works anyway, the Intel drives even in PCH which only allows 2 drives, is insanely faster on everything except raw write.

However if you factor in the VROC in 6 drives in RAID 0, the Intel VROC just crushes everything mainstream available unless you are talking about PCI Express 4.0 and we are not.

As far as using VROC for a boot drive, Don't. VROC kind of reminds me of ASUS RamDisk, from my trials, I've had entire VROC RAIDs fail and straight up disappear from my build, I would not recommend booting from VROC because it takes extra OS side drivers to initiate the drives before boot, so expect another 10 seconds added to your boot time, and I'm also having problems with the VROC as a boot drive because it's vastly inconsistent with certain file sizes so I would just reccomend using the VROC drives as a place to store your favorite games or programs but don't store anything mission critical on these because the VROC is 99% stable, but not as a boot drive.

[kathampy]

I created a non-boot non-Intel RAID 0 array in VROC on a secondary OS in a dual boot system and the VROC application went into trial mode. On the primary OS, the array works and the VROC application is not in trial mode. I wonder if the array will be disabled on the primary OS after 90 days anyway or if boot into the secondary OS after 90 days. The UEFI says the array is Incompatible.

My boot drive is an Optane 900p and the VROC array is 4x Inland Premium (Phison E12S) 2 TB. I have a Seagate IronWolf Pro 10 TB accelerated with another Optane 900p as Optane Memory which acts as a backup for the VROC array which I suspect can disappear at any moment.

[BigJohnny]

They go back and forth and neither will take responsibility nor provide the drivers. Look on winraid for the F6 drivers VROC.*
I ran it for awhile and ditched it. *OK for sequential reads and writes if you use it for storage on a media creation platform. As for using it as an OS drive the latency kills it. Q14K speeds will drop to that of a single Samsung drive. Running the OS is mostly a lot of the tiny little dll files where the single intel 900P amd 905P shines. When I was running it boot times were horrendous as in push the power button and go get a cup of coffee and maybe by the time you get back it’s at login. Single Optane drive is less than 5 seconds past post. You see the ROG, then it’s gone then once it comes back post is over and the circle of dots is gone in a matter of a few seconds.*