Finally Intel release Xeon 6 for us all. Question is which one socket they will 4710 or 7529 R7E

[restsugavan]

Intel was introducting Intel XEON 6 Family ( Codename Granite Rapid X ) .

[tistou77]

6521P is the closest to 10980X 😄

And just P-Cores (like the SKL-X and CL-X) is that it ?

[restsugavan]

@tistou77  Yes , Master tistou77 It was Redwood Cove Microarchitect P-Core . For more detail checking it microarchitect details.

Intel Redwood Cove Microarchitect block diagram

 https://chipsandcheese.com/p/intels-redwood-cove-baby-steps-are-still-steps

[Int8bldr]

I'm hoping they will make several X models including a 6731P (32 P cores) corresponding to the old 7960X and at the top end a XE model out of 6741P (48 cores) corresponding to the 7980XE. These are all high core count (HCC). 6741P (48 cores) is the highest core count just like 7980XE was the highest core count for the Skylake generation.

[tistou77]

6741P at $4000 is not really the equivalent of the 7980XE
I think it should be compared more to the number of cores

[Int8bldr]

yes $4000 for the xeon version 6741P.
BUT we want the HEDT version which is a cut down version of this Xeon using the same silicon but less memory channels, less PCIe channels, without register DRAM support, etc etc.
Remember back in 2017 they used the same silicon for the 18 core Xeon Gold 6140 and Xeon Gold 6154 to make the 7980 XE.

Xeon Gold 6140 costed $2450 and Xeon Gold 6154 costed $3543 at introduction in July 2017, see wikipedia.

with a bit of inflation, we end up with roughly the same numbers $3543 for a Xeon Gold 6154 in 2017 translates roughly to a 6741P for $4000 in 2025.

If Intel could price a new Granite Rapid X HEDT compatibly like the 10980XE at introduction (say $1000-$1500) we would finally have realistic upgrade path. $4000 is not realistic of course.

[tistou77]

Ah ok, if Intel releases HEDT CPUs like the 7980XE or 10980XE
I had stayed on the Xeon (1 socket)

I would be tempted by the equivalent price of the 10980XE (taking into account the small inflation of course) 🙂

[restsugavan]

@tistou77 @Int8bldr 

Maybe if they choose LGA 4710 as HEDT socket. We'll have 

64 cores model as 7980XE

48 core model as 7960X

32 core model as 7940X

24 core model as 7920X

16 core model as 7900X

According to previous platform LGA 4677 already top 64 Core ( Emerald Rapid ).

[Int8bldr]

64 cores would be ideal for the top X SKU BUT I'm afraid it would be too expensive - it's all about at what price.

I think 48 cores which is the top HHC silicon could be made at a low enough cost so Intel could sell it at say 1500 -2000, BUT XCC silicon at 64 cores could be too costly to make to offer at 2000. But I do not know of course - just speculating. It's all about price. 

[tistou77]

If the "price" follows the Cascade Lake-X it will be all good