SPECTRE and MELTDOWN: Bug rocks Intel / ARM CPUs

[segfaulted]

Kinda glad I bought AMD this round. For those who don't know there is a new bug affecting just about every SKU from Intel made in the last .. ohh.. _DECADE_ or so. It's actually worse then F00F or FDIV. Only mitigation appears to castrate the CPU upward of 30%! (depending on processes).

Can Asus confirm AMD and more importantly for me, this or any AMD motherboard are not affected? If so, will there be RMAs?

Fun fact, Intel's CEO dumped stock back in November before they started issuing gags on people from even talking about it.

*****ASUS advisory page(may get updated): https://www.asus.com/News/V5urzYAT6myCC1o2 ******

[Chok_Ice]

sblantipodi wrote:
is there someone who made some bench before and after the bios?

good point. what shall i bench, i have (LOOK AT PIK) .. what u want me to do?

[Chok_Ice]

Far cry 5, quake champions or assetto corsa would be the best for me to test at 720p low settings

[Chok_Ice]

just an updank for u guys n girls

pc is smooth after microcode update

anyway is there a webpage on the asus website that explains in detail what every setting in bios/uefi does

most google stuff is random people answering stuff, and the last time i took advice from toms hardware users, they told me my phenom ran at a max 62c, when amds overdrive stated i was fine to go to 70c....

so. people tend to pass on wrong answers all the time (including me)

[mscaf]

I bit the bullet and updated to the "Beta" BIOS 3503.

Pre and Post Firestrike scores here: https://imgur.com/a/yBfY0ZG

Overclock, XMP Profile, etc, everything so far seems stable, and most importantly, I finally pass an InSpectre test.

Why in the world do ASUS Support, the Support Managers I was escalated to, and Engineers have no idea what's going on with their own product is beyond me and entirely unsatisfactory and alarming. Being told over and over there would never be anything, nobody is working on it, my motherboard is not covered, reversing that stance and accepting my motherboard is covered, and then a surprise update on the product page. Insanely frustrating. One "its coming, it's not ready yet" email was all that was necessary.

I'll likely just go EVGA for everything since their employees at least have a semblance of what's happening.

[raximus21]

I just updated my Maximus VII Hero to 3503 and now I am passing all speculation control tests in powershell! :cool:

Thank you Asus! All you guys ever had to do was tell us that you would patch it eventually and I think all the negative response on here could have been avoided!

Anyways, I really appreciate it and will continue to support Asus in my next upgrade! 😉

[impertinent]

raximus21 wrote:
I just updated my Maximus VII Hero to 3503 and now I am passing all speculation control tests in powershell! :cool:

Thank you Asus! All you guys ever had to do was tell us that you would patch it eventually and I think all the negative response on here could have been avoided!

Anyways, I really appreciate it and will continue to support Asus in my next upgrade! 😉

You really think Asus would have supllied us after several months without an ongoing ****storm about their incredible awful aftersale support?

[xeromist]

impertinent wrote:
You really think Asus would have supllied us after several months without an ongoing ****storm about their incredible awful aftersale support?

Yup.

Big corporations don't change direction on a dime. It takes time for them to follow all of their bureaucracy and validations. It's not right but that's the way it is. It's extremely unlikely this thread in a corner of the Internet had any meaningful impact on the decision whether to validate and push out updates. If ASUS was concerned about this thread don't you think it would have issued a statement? It would have been nice to have more information about the progress for sure. It would also be nice to know what else is still in the pipe and if any boards are not going to get an update at all. So far the phone reps seem to be relaying mixed signals.

[Chok_Ice]

xeromist wrote:
Yup.

Big corporations don't change direction on a dime. It takes time for them to follow all of their bureaucracy and validations. It's not right but that's the way it is. It's extremely unlikely this thread in a corner of the Internet had any meaningful impact on the decision whether to validate and push out updates. If ASUS was concerned about this thread don't you think it would have issued a statement? It would have been nice to have more information about the progress for sure. It would also be nice to know what else is still in the pipe and if any boards are not going to get an update at all. So far the phone reps seem to be relaying mixed signals.

all it takes is one person to start a bush fire.

And we seen how fast things can spread........

[xeromist]

Chok_Ice wrote:
all it takes is one person to start a bush fire.

And we seen how fast things can spread........

That's a colorful sentiment but I'm not sure it's accurate here. I would like to disabuse people of the notion that vitriol expressed here is somehow justified or useful. This is a user-to-user forum so ASUS does not have a strong presence here and does not consult with us on policy decisions. The only thing you will accomplish by setting fires here is making it an unpleasant place for other innocent users. You will not get the attention of the mothership or change the direction of a multi-billion dollar company. If you want that, get an article in a major newspaper and see how fast things change.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be upset but I've been here many years and no angry campaign has ever accomplished anything. So absolutely people should express frustration and we can commiserate together but please refrain from trolling, flaming, bombastic legal threats, etc. It only hurts the community here pointlessly.

[ferrugia]

xeromist wrote:
That's a colorful sentiment but I'm not sure it's accurate here. I would like to disabuse people of the notion that vitriol expressed here is somehow justified or useful. This is a user-to-user forum so ASUS does not have a strong presence here and does not consult with us on policy decisions. The only thing you will accomplish by setting fires here is making it an unpleasant place for other innocent users. You will not get the attention of the mothership or change the direction of a multi-billion dollar company. If you want that, get an article in a major newspaper and see how fast things change.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be upset but I've been here many years and no angry campaign has ever accomplished anything. So absolutely people should express frustration and we can commiserate together but please refrain from trolling, flaming, bombastic legal threats, etc. It only hurts the community here pointlessly.

You have posted similar comments in various other threads. Maybe you should take your own advice. I don't understand your motivation as most of the posts you have replied to aren't trolling, flaming, or making threats. They are simply pointing out that Asus ROG is marketing itself as a premium brand with high price point but this isn't matched in their support or communication with their customers. Consequently they are disappointed and some have expressed a desire to no longer invest in Asus products. No one has said they expect the CEO of Asus to come respond to all these messages and offer an apology. But this site is a user forum and this is a free country, people can say what they want. If that somehow makes you feel uncomfortable or unpleasant then that's your issue not ours.