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My Experience with HP (RAGE)

CStingerGhost1
Level 7
I will start from the beginning:
I was an HP fanboy. Pay attention to the past-tense there.
My old HP laptop (a custom-built G62X which I received on December 25, 2010) stopped working on November 8, 2012. It was long out of its one-year warranty, and I had wanted a new computer for a while. On November 11, 2012, I ordered a very high-end HP ENVY dv6t-7200 Quad Edition with an i7-3630 QM processor and an NVidia GeForce GT 650M GPU. The total cost was $1,181 (I also got a three-year warranty). I received it on November 21, 2012. On Saturday night (November 24, 2012, just three days after I got the computer) the GPU stopped being detected and the system defaulted to the integrated graphics processor. For my uses, this makes the computer into a very expensive paperweight. I require powerful graphics processing for education in 3D development, design, and for my personal gaming. I contacted HP and they ran me through multiple troubleshooting steps which didn't work, of course, because this is a hardware problem. So they had me send it in for repair. I sent it in on Tuesday, December 1, 2012. It was originally slated to be back in my hands by the sixteenth. I had finals the week of the sixteenth, and need my computer for that. So the sixteenth would be perfect. Except it didn't come on the sixteenth (which made finals a bitch). Due to a parts shortage, the delivery date was pushed back to the fifteenth of January, 2013. That is a month over my original delivery date. That is unacceptable. Especially when I have only had access to a computer (which I need) for three days in the previous two months. When I drop over a thousand dollars on a computer, I don't expect it to fail in three days. And I expect much better and more timely service, especially from a fortune-500 company. Unfortunately, HP is too incompetent to do this.
Back to my story:
I managed to get myself a case manager, who very kindly ordered me a new computer (same specifications). I received it on December 26, 2013. On that Sunday (December 30, 2013, four days after), the same issue as before occurred. At this point, I was done with HP. I called and requested a refund. I was told I would have confirmation of a refund within a week. At the end of that allotted time, I called my case manager. She had the flu. I waited over a weekend and then another two days, calling each day. She was still sick. I then requested to be transferred to another case manager. I was told that was impossible. After calling again, I asked what would happen if a case manager quit in the middle of a case. They told me the case would be transferred. So I asked them how they couldn't do it for me. Without an answer, they decided to transfer me to another case manager.
The stupidity here is simply dripping from the mouths of HP's staff.
Anyways, the new case manager tried to get me a refund, and after another week I was finally told I would have it.
So in the end, I built my own desktop computer with the money, circumventing HP's bureaucratic BS. But it took me a good three or four months. I'm finally happy with my computer. And that HP fanboy we started with? Well let's just say I now have an extreme hate for HP...and it's seeping out.
I had (before this happened) recommended HP to a school friend. He bought an $800 ENVY dv6t-7200 with a GT 630M GPU in it. Guess what happened to his? Yeah...same thing as mine. So this is obviously HP's problem with attaching the GPUs, not NVidia's.
My brother and dad were both in the market to drop $1000 each on a new computer (and it was going to be an HP). They're now each going to be looking elsewhere.
And there's countless others who will hear this story over the internet.
Good job HP, real fine work you've done here. You've turned a loving fanboy (oh I was so wrong back then) into a hating enemy. No HPs will be bought if I have anything to say about it.
Goodbye HP, for good this time.

Hello ROG'ers! If you made it this far, then I thank you for reading.
The above was a message I sent to HP in a customer feedback survey. Let's hope they read it.
In the meantime, take the message to heart. DO NOT buy from HP. I know lots of people say this, and before it happened to me I thought it wasn't true. But trust me, it is. I learned the hard way.
MSI Interceptor Series Barricade Case
MSI Z77-G45 Mainboard
Corsair HX-750 PSU
Intel Core i7-3770K CPU overclocked to 4.2 GHz (Cooling: Corsair Hydro H60 Liquid)
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 GPU (core OC of 1125 MHz, memory OC of 6700 MHz)
Sixteen GB of dual-channel 1600 MHz DDR3 Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM
ASUS Xonar DSX Audio Card
System Data Drive: 128-GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Storage Data Drive: 1-TB, 7200 RPM Western Digital Black HDD
Windows 8.1 64-Bit
DirectX 11
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Gorman
Level 12
Reading the above, can't help but think how ridiculous it is that you think that ASUS is better...


I spent more than twice that much on a RoG laptop, in 2 years it has spent more than 30% of it's life in repair shops, 5 failures in 2 years. After the second failure I asked for a refund - because waiting months for repairs and having failures that happen after a few weeks was unacceptable. However ASUS does not offer refunds under any circumstances, and even getting a replacement is extremely difficult. ASUS doesn't have case managers so you talk to a different person every time, and have to explain the whole story. The repair centers and call centers give you the run around, repair centers often don't do enough testing or handle the laptops badly causing all kinds of damage.
At least HP was nice enough to offer a refund, I've asked countless times over the years but ASUS just refuse. Somehow they think it's better for me to have a ticking time bomb and an excuse to rant about how terrible ASUS is, rather than give me my money back. I guess not even ASUS wants this junk...


By the way, I doubt HP handle deliveries themselves, it's probably a company such as UPS...

Gorman wrote:
Reading the above, can't help but think how ridiculous it is that you think that ASUS is better...


I never said ASUS is better...where did you get that from?

Gorman wrote:
By the way, I doubt HP handle deliveries themselves, it's probably a company such as UPS...


It's actually Fed-Ex...but why does that matter? The delay was not due to shipping. They told me I would have two-day shipping. The delay was due to their inability to repair my computer quickly.
MSI Interceptor Series Barricade Case
MSI Z77-G45 Mainboard
Corsair HX-750 PSU
Intel Core i7-3770K CPU overclocked to 4.2 GHz (Cooling: Corsair Hydro H60 Liquid)
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 GPU (core OC of 1125 MHz, memory OC of 6700 MHz)
Sixteen GB of dual-channel 1600 MHz DDR3 Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM
ASUS Xonar DSX Audio Card
System Data Drive: 128-GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Storage Data Drive: 1-TB, 7200 RPM Western Digital Black HDD
Windows 8.1 64-Bit
DirectX 11

Gorman
Level 12
Ok... So it's intentional irony then ey?

Make post about terrible support/quality on website for company with terrible support/quality ?



But HP has nice ending, is inspirational story?

Gorman wrote:
Ok... So it's intentional irony then ey?

Make post about terrible support/quality on website for company with terrible support/quality?


I'm here for the computer building...not as much for the ASUS products. It's not intentional irony. I'm just sharing a story and warning with a great community here.
And maybe it is inspirational, but it took a long time to resolve, screwed over my finals, and caused a lot of trouble. More like a warning. And I wanted to just get it out.
MSI Interceptor Series Barricade Case
MSI Z77-G45 Mainboard
Corsair HX-750 PSU
Intel Core i7-3770K CPU overclocked to 4.2 GHz (Cooling: Corsair Hydro H60 Liquid)
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 GPU (core OC of 1125 MHz, memory OC of 6700 MHz)
Sixteen GB of dual-channel 1600 MHz DDR3 Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM
ASUS Xonar DSX Audio Card
System Data Drive: 128-GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Storage Data Drive: 1-TB, 7200 RPM Western Digital Black HDD
Windows 8.1 64-Bit
DirectX 11

DaemonCantor
Level 13
CStinger, I'm glad you got a resolution for the problem, I do remember when HP was so terrible that the even got Disrespected in the News! but around 2000/2001 they turned that around and now they do sit up high on Customers Love List. I can see a model or two that has Major Problems, it's the same with all companies look at the Complaints here at this forum. Even Asus has a few bad models!

Thank you for your story of Inspiration but do remember that for years Asus/Pegatron supplied the AMD Boards for HP and MSI supplies the Intel Boards. Just like Dell and all of the other Brand Name Box Makers they use basically the same parts you would buy for your Custom Built system and are subject to just as many bad parts as the rest of us are.

DaemonCantor wrote:
CStinger, I'm glad you got a resolution for the problem, I do remember when HP was so terrible that the even got Disrespected in the News! but around 2000/2001 they turned that around and now they do sit up high on Customers Love List. I can see a model or two that has Major Problems, it's the same with all companies look at the Complaints here at this forum. Even Asus has a few bad models!

Thank you for your story of Inspiration but do remember that for years Asus/Pegatron supplied the AMD Boards for HP and MSI supplies the Intel Boards. Just like Dell and all of the other Brand Name Box Makers they use basically the same parts you would buy for your Custom Built system and are subject to just as many bad parts as the rest of us are.


Very good points, @DaemonCantor, there are very few major vendors who actually make their own computers. From what I understand, ASUS is the only major one that does. Yes, ASUS does have problems, as do all the other vendors. That is why I am so against using the number of threads on a support form as a benchmark for the quality of the a company's products. It is about the same as judging the number of sick people based upon the doctor's office.
I am disturbed because I cannot break my system...found out there were others trying to cope! We have a support group on here, if your system will not break, please join!
http://rog.asus.com/forum/group.php?groupid=16
We now have 178 people whose systems will not break! Yippee! 🙂
LINUX Users, we have a group!
http://rog.asus.com/forum/group.php?groupid=23

Zygomorphic wrote:
Very good points, @DaemonCantor, there are very few major vendors who actually make their own computers. From what I understand, ASUS is the only major one that does. Yes, ASUS does have problems, as do all the other vendors. That is why I am so against using the number of threads on a support form as a benchmark for the quality of the a company's products. It is about the same as judging the number of sick people based upon the doctor's office.


Ah yes indeed
MSI Interceptor Series Barricade Case
MSI Z77-G45 Mainboard
Corsair HX-750 PSU
Intel Core i7-3770K CPU overclocked to 4.2 GHz (Cooling: Corsair Hydro H60 Liquid)
ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 GPU (core OC of 1125 MHz, memory OC of 6700 MHz)
Sixteen GB of dual-channel 1600 MHz DDR3 Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM
ASUS Xonar DSX Audio Card
System Data Drive: 128-GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Storage Data Drive: 1-TB, 7200 RPM Western Digital Black HDD
Windows 8.1 64-Bit
DirectX 11

chrsplmr
Level 18
WOW .. HP .. MSI ??? they make computers ??? hahahhaa oh .. thanks.. some of them suck ?? oh. thanks...

lemons come in all flavors .. they all leave a sour taste in our mouths.

Welcome to ROG .. Go get a ROG board .. and live a little.
as to the Gseries .. I have love for all thing ROG.

and brotherGorman has a legit gripe .. on his G53 .. and I smile everytime I
see it brought up .. that dog dont give up his bone .. all ROG.
But as you see .. he is here .. his MB bring him joy .. hehehe

I dont know where Im going with this .. hahahha a... Im still on HP/MSI ... hahhahahaa .. but Welcome.c.