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Is the desktop PC dying out?

IM2L844
Level 12
Some iPhone junkies would like to think so, but it doesn't look like it to me.

From CNET:
"For those who demand the highest processor core count and memory bandwidth on the desktop, Intel will deliver an 8-core, 16-thread Intel Core processor Extreme Edition in the second half of this year," Lisa Graff, an Intel vice president and general manager, said at GDC earlier this week.

That 4th generation Intel Core Haswell chip will also support the new, faster DDR4 memory standard.

Other changes to the desktop that Intel mentioned are: an upcoming 5th generation Broadwell chip -- which will be Intel's first 14-nanometer processor and the first desktop chip to feature its own Iris Pro graphics (currently popular in laptops such as Apple's MacBook Pros) -- and an unlocked Haswell processor for the overclocker crowd.

"Intel is optimistic about the enthusiast segment," said Nathan Brookwood, the principal analyst at Insight 64. "There's not a lot of competition in the high-end segment" so it's a space that Intel can own, he said.

"Intel's desktop business is its No. 2 business at 43 percent of client [processor] shipments and was growing more than other segments for Intel in '13," the spokesman added.
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wmunn
Level 7
Also, while laptops and other portable solutions have made great surges in recent years, there is still no real substitute for demanding work. Laptops slowly cook themselves and usually die within 3 to 4 years anyways. As more and more people experience this, they will eventually turn back to a non portable solution for real work, and that will help their portable equipment last better. (or they will continue to spend big $$$)
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MatsGlobetrotte
Level 10
oh lets see.

I got an Iphone 5s.. hmm it does not take good enough pictures so I still go back to my Canon. Oh I cant read the PDF files with documents people send me as the screen is too small. Ok let me use my Ipad3. I love the pixel per inch and its great for showing my friends what I have taken photos of but already processed somewhere else as 2 of my camera memory cards will fill the Ipad to the brim. Ok atleast now I have something that atleast I can substitute some paper magazines for so I can read therm on the fly in the airport or in the car going somewhere. And read my emails for sure.

Playing games yeah been there done that. after the millionth time being asked if I want to purchase strawberries, gold and what ever in every single game I have played I gave up.. A good timekiller though in an airport lounge if you disconnect internet!!. and when running to a boring meeting when I can nod my head and look like I am still there while researching where ill go for dinner.... Simply no application that I have seen so far is better on a tablet than on my desktop except for ....the fact that it has a GPS so I can see where I am with some good information about what is around me when I want in a foreign place.

So then I am back at my HP Pavillion DV-6 with a neat core I7 - Win 7 and a Radeon AMD 6700M series and a resolution of 1366 x768. Quite fast and nice setup. I throw in an SSD for good measure to get some speed. 8 months later comes Win 8 and I try install it only to find that if it had been 1 month newer HP would make drivers for it...... Meanwhile I use it for the photo editing I wanted but with an external screen a Samsung TA950 in full HD. Play some games every now and then and atleast have a setup I can take with me to offload pictures from the camera. For editing 20 Mpixel it works but to get the real gist of a good picture a bigger screen in higher resolution is needed. Those 3 years ago I had said good riddens to a desktop. But then alas I needed to install a home architect programme with 3d rendering. Nothing superbig but would render the drawings and houses I made.

I got a PS3 so I could play my favourite driving games and Fifa with my son. Now he has taken over completely. I simply hated using it for internet. I hated having to convert videos to the format for the HD inside it so do streaming from the desktop instead. I hated having to keep changing folder names and picture names for the PS3 to store the files in the right way.

Meanwhile I am there wondering.. what happened to the real gaming, real good flight simulation and so forth. For years it seems the HD and Full HD hijacked the resolution on screens. People seemed to settle for playing on 42-50 inch full HD screens either PS3 or on computers. No matter where I looked nothing was to be found to get to that good last mile in resolution needed to get where I thought we would have been already 5 years ago. I mean I already had a 2048 x 1536 CRT screen in 2004 - 2005... Ten Years ago, only to go back and use Full HD !!! as being big news because it is flat?

Now , December I bought a ASUS PB278 with 2560 x 1440 resolution and finally I can see some good progress on the resolution towards that last mile of not seeing pixels on a larger screen. Soon ill get the 4K for sure. I love it, though I need to fork out some more money to get one or is it 3 🙂 So now I am back to desktops. but I wont be happy until I see the same or better pixel per inch as the IPad 3 has but on 28-30 inch screens with synching and GPU-CPU power to boot that can supply 3 such screens simultaneously in a serious game or simulator. Meanwhile I settle for what I have. I need the processing power and GPU power for the resolution and speed in gaming as well as for my photo-editing as well as video editing. Am tired of the HDR software thinking for 10 minutes for something I can have in 1 minute without having to resize the RAW files.. hmm I can even play a game while the HDR software does its thing on another screen while I download a software in the background somewhere. ( i know the penalties will be there on some other performance meanwhile but atleast then im not bored waiting) There is simply no tablet, Laptop that have the overall versatility that a real good desktop have... except for being portable.

So is the Desktop dead.. hmm ...on the contrary. it will be dead the day we have holographic 3D monitors and we are immersed into a game or other software while being of the size of something implanted in our brain operating at a speed that we can not even imagine today, without us having to be plugged to the wall socket for power 🙂 nor walking around with some Google-glasses. Until then I'll continue to upgrade and buy more pieces for a desktop.

Mind you I can still enjoy some of the low pixel games from 1981 - 1985 🙂 coz the game ideas where new then, now most is a repeat though infinitely better in graphics.
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MatsGlobetrotter wrote:
boring meeting when I can nod my head and look like I am still there while researching where ill go for dinner....


Heh! someone else does this!

Completely agree with the whole post especially the screen resolution stuff...between HDMI and 1080p everything stagnated but now things seem to be on the move....really liked the move to 2560x1440....will love the move to 4K! long live the desktop...

Bozzified
Level 7
Well it is narrowing down.. the competition among computer companies is increasing. The simple reason is that the revenue that was coming from mainstream is dying out.

The performance, workstation, gaming stuff like ASUS and Corsair and others will pretty much be around for a while because the purpose of those computers is different from just checking email, watching youtube and doing simple spreadsheets.

This market is definitely dying out as people can get the same stuff with larger battery life, portability and same performance from mobile devices, tablets etc.

Workstation, higher end market for computers will be definitely around as people who use these machines need that power and tablets and mobile devices are simply secondary screens, while for most people they are primary screens.

While it won't completely die out, the PC market IS shrinking significantly. The latest report showed that there was a loss by 20% in sales across the board in the industry.

Grumpy_OLD_git
Level 7
Just wait, this is a question that's asked every few years, then something new comes out, and pc's take off again. However I will say pc's are becoming a more specialised market, that's why the prices of high end things has increased, now people pay £1000+ for graphics cards! and bigger company's struggle to sell the crazy high spec machines! because we build our own! and make them better.
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MatsGlobetrotte
Level 10
I think mainstream users are seeing the need also. Ok today I am OCing coz i like a challenge but thats not what i use computers for in general. I would say im an average power user who use the full office package plus visio and project type software. The corporate ERP is among them on daily basis. most of them open same time. Atleast now I can do that and if im lucky also have them on the screen same time I check the twitter stream for any news flashes that might affect my work. But then I also want to do my photo editing and I am one of those crazy ones who used the Kodak DC-20 when it came out pictures with 493x373 pixels. it was convenient for work but i kept my standard Canon EOS of the day for slides. It was a major thing to actually be able to send pictures on emails in those days.

Last winter i took out my slides and scanned them in 2560 x1440 or around there in resolution. The pictures i took with the Kodak was good in those days but looking at them on a full HD screen or my 2560 screen is.... just not interesting.. I can almost make out that it is me in the picture...
That is still the issue with digital capture for the long run. I am sure those guys taking pictures with lower res phones and ipads (while leaving their higher res or good lens cameras at home) will regret it in about 3-5 years especially if they processed them through some fancy coloring system like instagram promotes.

The moment we think the handy palm and laptop, pad style machines are good there is a new revolution in the technology for much more complexity and thus much more hardware hungry machines. Meanwhile ofourse I still try teach some .. not so power users at work that it is possible to use the native resolution on a screen and rather increase the dpi settings on the computer rather than going back to 800x600 resolution (on a 24 inch widescreen monitor) because they think things get too small on the screen.. sighhh. that generation will surely use computers for another 30 years though. (50 if I look at where i work due to the digital divide that is huge)

I rather believe the desktop will get better integrated with TV, ipads, gameconsols and will need to be the overall gaming- powermachine that also can continue function as a file-server for home use. Atleast I am one of those tired of having to buy yet another NAS, extra external disk, crashed laptop discs and otherwise use a cloud storage that some intelligence agency decided is a good source of information for their own purpose, or that get hacked and everything uploaded on internet for whatever usage someone wanted. They are useful and so forth but i for sure also want my own storage at home. I trust an online system as much as i trust our corporate backup systems.. thus .... not... when the CDs and DVD as well as bluerays came out many thought oh what a massive amount of storage we have... nah.. its not better than when we had the 360kb discs in the old days. They still get full, scratched and broken and is not the permanent storage solutions we needed anyway.

We use touch screens on ipads but then you see users buying extra keyboards and so forth so in the end you still have a backpack full of gadgets.(even camera lenses coming out.....) We even had laptops with swivel and touch screens.. 50 of them... we had 1....... ONE user who ever used that swivel and touch screen over a period of 3 years. I am sure you have noticed that while those normal office softwares should not be power hungry compared to BF4 type games but man they suck up resources when used. A laptop is barely good for 2 years use as then with general upgrades they are... slow...... Im on my 3rd ipad.. I was dumb enough to upgrade my Iphone 4 to the new IOS.. man it took 1 minute to get a to the address book........after that. They should just have blocked the updates for the phones as it was infact just.... an argument to get more phones sold as the only logical idea... Overall it just shows that we are not catching up with hardware compared to the innovation in software's especially if it has to be portable.

In general im amazed at the amount of Hardware that is coming out even though the developers seems to be holding back to keep the market prices up more than the actual limitations on development and checking what the neighbour is doing instead.
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chrsplmr
Level 18
Mine's not. .c.

jaisivakumar
Level 7
no definitely not for heavy multitasking desktop is the rite choice