To be honest I was surprised that more people didn't do more around the Computex products - we had ~1/2 entries only covering the three motherboards and only an 'indirect' entry for the GX500 (the winner was high quality but I feel the group would have chosen a more product-centric one
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:OK, maybe I / we misunderstood. I think AkaNe's post was a bit misleading, it sounded like you've changed the rules for new sign-ups afterwards... But never mind. It's not the case.
It was always the case. It was never stated otherwise at any time. The fact is we amended the rules becauseof you guys; we REDUCED the new signup voting to just 1 vote instead of 3.
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:I've never said that anyone in fact was cheating here. All I was saying was just simply discussing how many possibilities is there to cheat and I hope that you're aware of them (or at least take notice). But it was all theoretical. 🙂
It's just cynical to assume everyone new is 'cheating' when we've been through to check and there's no evidence of this. People are genuinely joining because they want to express their love for an entry.
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:I know, somebody even pointed that out already. There was probably no cheaters here - at leats there is no hard evidence for that... 😛
To be honest, number 10 got in with just 4 votes. Hardly overwhelmed with 'fake'/friends/new accounts.
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:There wasn't even 200 votes, so you definitively wouldn't have to browse through so many entries. When you run this type of contest you have to predict how many entries there could be and how many people could vote (I know, it's difficult when you do this for the first time, but you already have some experience with these contests). Then you decide how many votes will qualify the entry (in my company the average is 30 votes, but it's a contest on facebook, so even though it's not global and the company doesn't have many fans, people still manage to get those votes). Then you get the most voted entries, but even if someone is cheating, they're not going to take out somebody else's entry. And since the jury picks a winner, everyone believes that it was a fair play. 🙂 For me that's a win-win situation. 🙂
Frankly I don't agree that you can look at 200 entries and decide a winner.
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:That's not a good idea. 😛
An alternative could have been staff votes count for 3/5 versus 1 for fans
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:Just as I said before - we'll see how many users will stay on the forums and how many will no longer appear. But it's seems like a very inefficient method, since there was more entries than votes. There should be at least 3 times more votes than entries, so the top 10 would be more accurate. You can achieve it on portals like facebook, but on the other hand there would be definitely somebody trying to cheat.
We run the competition to drive signups and to drive recognition for the brand - we advertise it on our portals worldwide so of the 100,000s of people that see it, some will inevitably join because they really like a work.
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:I was talking to him 2 weeks ago, he sent me a PM too. He was generally upset about the voting rules (that even users with 1-day membership can vote). He also mentioned that he's been considering to withdraw from the competition now that the new rules were applied and that he wouldn't even join the contest in the first place, if he knew that before. As far as I don't approve insulting other people (seems ridiculous, since he was picked as a winner), still I kinda understand his disappointment.
Unfortunately Knotic has elected to remove himself from the competition after sending some abusive messages to staff. Surprising and completely out the blue, but there you go.
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:I wonder where this post is gone now, but anyway in my opinion this is just not enough. I'm not saying that the voting was some kind of a big fraud, yet still I'm wondering how many users registered here only to leave their vote and probably never come back... 😉
To be considered for the MB/Front Base prize. Voting is OK. We will check IP / email address anomalies on new signups 🙂
MarshallR@ASUS wrote:It seems unfair that only ten entries were eligible to win. It's good that the ASUS staff has picked the winners, but still you could've been eliminated by people with fake votes, so the jury haven't even had a chance to see your entry (well it's actually hard to believe that none of them hadn't even take a brief look at a page that was open to public, but whatever :p).
The images were presented to a staff of 30 people without any names or identifiers attached. None of them have read the thread or seen the entries before this date.
I was talking to him 2 weeks ago, he sent me a PM too.
And to make things clear - I don't feel aggrieved because of all this, since I received an *enormous* amount of votes for my entry (which is ONE vote, hooray! )
And congratulations to the winners, especially to you Nico J, since I voted for your winning entry.
Nico J wrote:You don't have to, I believe you. 🙂 All I was saying is that I've got only one vote, so I wouldn't probably qualify even if they'd change the rules, like I suggested. 🙂
Come on Mr. Pafflick , you must be kidding right 😉 lol , I really like it one, should I proof that your wallpaper was in my 14" laptop right now ? hahahhaha