Max XI F: BIOS 1902/1903 issues with XMP

[BizSAR]

After flashing BIOS 1902 or 1903 on my Maximus XI Formula, if I set it to utilize XMPI or II, the platform makes a number of attempts to boot, then boots into BIOS safe mode. I'm able to reproduce this even with all other BIOS settings at default.
Flashing back to 1802, I have no issues.
CPU: i9-9900KF
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer RGB 3000 MHz, 4 x 8GB CL15 BLT8G4D30AET4K
Can provide more stats if needed.

[STARRAIN_ROG]

Hi AndAbel,

I'm sorry I'm a little confused. Although you have reverted to 1802 with the G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZR, it did get stuck initially on white for the first time after the CMOS was cleared, but it was working fine after you booted it again? or does it get stuck initially on white even though you didn't clear coms recently?
Thank you.

[AndAbel]

STARRAIN@ROG,

I reverted back to 1802 and initially it posted the first time without the white light getting stuck. I set the command rate at 1t because thats what I had my previous RAM at but the RAM would not boot with 1N so I had to clear the CMOS again. It got stuck on white on the first attempted post after this second clearing of the CMOS so I had to hit the reset button. It then posted normally and I was able to set up the bios from there. It now boots normally every time and is perfectly stable as far as I can tell @3400mhz C14 but 2N/T for the command rate.

It never gets stuck on white besides that one time after I had to re-clear the CMOS.

[STARRAIN_ROG]

AndAbel wrote:
STARRAIN@ROG,

I reverted back to 1802 and initially it posted the first time without the white light getting stuck. I set the command rate at 1t because thats what I had my previous RAM at but the RAM would not boot with 1N so I had to clear the CMOS again. It got stuck on white on the first attempted post after this second clearing of the CMOS so I had to hit the reset button. It then posted normally and I was able to set up the bios from there. It now boots normally every time and is perfectly stable as far as I can tell @3400mhz C14 but 2N/T for the command rate.

It never gets stuck on white besides that one time after I had to re-clear the CMOS.

Hi AndAbel,
I'm sorry after consulted our tech team, the Mem_LED is orange and the VGA q-led is white if there is any issue.
Could you please refer to the manual and check is the Mem_LED or VGA q-led on while no boot after updated 1902 or1903?
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m..._UM_V2_WEB.pdf
If the VGA q-led is on and no boot, please refer to the instructions in the following link.
https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1042678
Thank you.

[AndAbel]

STARRAIN@ROG wrote:
Hi AndAbel,
I'm sorry after consulted our tech team, the Mem_LED is orange and the VGA q-led is white if there is any issue.
Could you please refer to the manual and check is the Mem_LED or VGA q-led on while no boot after updated 1902 or1903?
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m..._UM_V2_WEB.pdf
If the VGA q-led is on and no boot, please refer to the instructions in the following link.
https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1042678
Thank you.

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with my hardware, if thats what you are implying. I haven't had a single failed boot since rolling back to 1802.

One thing I forgot to mention previously is that when running 1903 with the old RAM I tried to change the TPM from firmware to discrete and whenever I did that the boot would initially fail and then it would automatically set itself back to firmware(without telling me) and boot normally. I don't remember if it ever got stuck on white when trying to change the TPM but it may have. Bottom line is that I could not set the TPM to discrete without it auto reverting back to firmware.

On my current RAM with 1802, I am running the TPM as discrete and it was defaulted to discrete but I could not get discrete TPM to work with the old RAM on 1903 and the new RAM won't even post with 1903 as I've repeatedly stated.

Did the default TPM change from discrete to firmware with 1901/1902/1903? If it did I think it may be the source of the problem.

I repeat, I could not get discrete TPM to boot with 1903 on my old RAM, it would fail and then automatically reset to firmware without alerting me and then boot with that.

I haven't had a single failed boot with my new or old RAM on 1802 with the TPM set to discrete.

[STARRAIN_ROG]

Hi AndAbel,

Thank you for your reply.
May I have the information below?
- the serial number of your motherboard via PM
- the brand and the model name of your CPU, VGA and PSU?
- OS version and OS build
Thank you.

[BizSAR]

I'm hoping we see a BIOS release with the fix to my original issue soon. 🙂

[STARRAIN_ROG]

Hi xNyor,

Thank you for your reply and update.
Have a nice day.

[STARRAIN_ROG]

Hi AndAbel,
I'm not sure memok lights would get stuck on white you mentioned is Mem_LED or VGA q-led. The Mem_LED is orange and the VGA q-led is white if there is any issue.
Could you please refer to the manual and check is the Mem_LED or VGA q-led on while no boot after updated 1903?
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/ROG_STRIX_Z390-E_GAMING/E14841_ROG_STRIX_Z390-E_GAMING...
May I have videos about the following conditions(including bios setting screen)?
- When running 1903 with the old RAM G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZKW whenever you changed the TPM from firmware to discrete, the boot would initially fail and then it would automatically set itself back to firmware and boot normally.
- The default TPM setting is discrete but with new RAM G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZR won't even post with 1903.
Thank you.

[AndAbel]

STARRAIN@ROG wrote:
Hi AndAbel,
I'm not sure memok lights would get stuck on white you mentioned is Mem_LED or VGA q-led. The Mem_LED is orange and the VGA q-led is white if there is any issue.
Could you please refer to the manual and check is the Mem_LED or VGA q-led on while no boot after updated 1903?
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/ROG_STRIX_Z390-E_GAMING/E14841_ROG_STRIX_Z390-E_GAMING...
May I have videos about the following conditions(including bios setting screen)?
- When running 1903 with the old RAM G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GTZKW whenever you changed the TPM from firmware to discrete, the boot would initially fail and then it would automatically set itself back to firmware and boot normally.
- The default TPM setting is discrete but with new RAM G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZR won't even post with 1903.
Thank you.

Are you saying that the default TPM is discrete with 1903? Even if it is, it won't work on my setup. It always sets it back to firmware automatically as I said.

I'm not making videos of the bios because I don't even have the means to do so and because I'm in the middle of moving. I'm also not putting the old ram back in at this point. I'm running perfectly stable with 1802 and I will just wait for a new bios that hopefully rectifies the problems because 1903 is bugged whether you want to admit it or not. No other bios released for this board has given me any problems but the 19 series.

[STARRAIN_ROG]

Hi AndAbel,
I'm sorry to avoid any misunderstanding, I'd like to understand more about the issues you mentioned and then consulted our tech team, and videos would help.
If you still got it stuck on white memok lights and no boot with new RAM G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZR, could you please refer to the manual and check is the Mem_LED or VGA q-led on while no boot after updated 1903?
Thank you so much.