What to Expect from My 7700K-Stuck

[Roger3006]

Hello Everyone,

I built my first computer about three years ago for image editing. it was a Maximus XII Hero board with a 4790K that was mildly overclocked. It failed and I replaced the motherboard with a Maximus IX Hero and had to do it fast. 32GB of Corsair 3200 RAM with six SSDs and 4 spinners.

My last setup did a great job with still images and I was amazed when I first used my new setup. A few things of interest, my current machine is plenty quick with stills (images) and I do not edit video. I am probably the oldest one on this forum. I have never been able to leave anything alone that can be made to go faster or better. Cars, sailboats and rifle cartridges are among my many vices, past and present. How many of you raced slot cars? Y'all missed something fun. That's where I am coming from. In other words, I am turning this machine up because I am having fun.

I have tried BIOS settings found in this forum and have been tweaking the BIOS. The AI Suite will do as good a job as I can. None of the BIOS settings I found at the beginning of the forum will run. Windows 10 64 will not even start. If I attempt to go up to 49000 MHz I rarely make it to Windows. If I do it will crash the minute I start RealBench.

No matter what I do or try I cannot get my CPU past 48,000 MHz with a RealBench score of about 90,000. Temps run below 75 degrees. I have a dual 140MM AIO cooler. I have not delidded my processor, yet. My delidding tool will be here Wednesday.

I do not know if my barrier is temperature related, bottleneck in my hardware, bad BIOS settings or some of each. I do not know what utilities to use that will tell me where the problem is. I need help. You can see my complete setup in my profile.

Following is a report from Real Bench. I really do not know what is good, bad or what to expect.



Sun Oct 29 2017
19:03:19




Image Editing: 87170
Time: 61.1217


Encoding: 79824
Time: 66.7467


OpenCL: 90610
KSamples/sec: 16730


Heavy Multitasking: 94672
Time: 80.6148




System Score: 88069






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Sun Oct 29 2017
19:15:02




Image Editing: 85713
Time: 62.1605


Encoding: 81528
Time: 65.351


OpenCL: 90610
KSamples/sec: 16739


Heavy Multitasking: 92781
Time: 82.2577




System Score: 87658






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Sun Oct 29 2017
19:25:58




Image Editing: 86285
Time: 61.7481


Encoding: 84250
Time: 63.24


OpenCL: 90610
KSamples/sec: 16732


Heavy Multitasking: 97179
Time: 78.5349




System Score: 89581






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I am open to any and all suggestions.

Thank you,

Roger

[JustinThyme]

Hi Roger, you may have several contenders for oldest person. *We have been contemplating a 55+ LAN party.*

Your realbench scores are horrendous! It’s not the fall creators update as I’m running that and sitting at #5 on the leader board, @Menthol, I’m coming for you!

You can also get the version by typing winver in the search on the taskbar.

Firstly can you list all of your hardware. I didn’t see any *GPUs listed, they are a big part of the scores.
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*Not every 7700K is golden but sounds like you got a dud. I’ve gotten mine to 5.2 GHz delidded but that’s not your problem right now.

Regardless of your clock that still does not explain your scores you should be able to beat that by a good margin with everything set to stock.

I’ve seen this happen before as a result of how the OS and drivers were loaded. When the OS is finished installing the first thing should be the chipset drivers followed by Intel MEI. Those two first are very important. After that I normally do graphics then sound but that’s a matter of preference and no real rhyme or reason but the chipset followed by MEI is paramount. Get this order wrong and you will have severe performance issues. If you didn’t do this then you will need to start all over again with the install. *

[Nate152]

Thanks for that Justin, we can rule out the fall creators update as a potential problem then.

[Roger3006]

Thanks Y'all,

Below you will find my system information plus a stock benchmark after flashing the CMOS.

I have a MSI Nvidia GForce 980 TI graphics card.

Rendering is the most important aspect of speeding the machine. My images are 40mb out of the camera. Add a few layers in Photoshop and it is not uncommon to have a file hit a MB.

Hopefully Y'all will see something here.

Roger_3006

[Roger3006]

Better news everyone.

I like the idea of a 55+ party. I do qualify and then some. Only thing is the girls should be exempt from the age floor.

I reinstalled RealBench and cleaned up a few unwanted programs. Below you see the best Realbench score yet. rendering improved by 3X. I also ran Cinebench 11.5 and achieved a vast improvement there, about 2 points to 10.18. No, I did not kick the machine but I did think about it. I doubt it makes a big difference but I ran RealBench from an M2 4X.

Below is the results from my last test with the BIOS stock.

[Menthol]

A fast drive does help some, run it from a Ramdisk ups the score some, windows power plan on performance, after you start benchmark wait a few seconds and move your mouse, then restart helps on Image Editing score, lower screen resolution, Installing Intel igpu driver helps with OpenCL, even if igpu is disabled

You young kids have fun

[Roger3006]

Hello Everyone,

My processor was deluded. I installed it and am getting a 00 code and no post.

Any suggestions?

Roger

[Nate152]

Oh no, this does not sound good Roger.

Something may have gone wrong during delidding, did you delid it and how did you do it ? You may have accidentally bent some cpu socket pins when installing it back, but I would think you're careful when installing it.

Code 00 alot of the time is:

Dead cpu
Faulty motherboard or bent cpu socket pins
Faulty psu
8 pin cpu power cable is not connected to the board.
A short somewhere
Corrupted bios

Hopefully it's something simple you're overlooking.

You can try clearing the cmos and hope that brings her to life.

[Roger3006]

I was very carefully; however, I may have bent a pin in the CPU socket.

I thought the OO was bad, just was not sure how bad.

was not my day.

Roger3006

[Meatwallet]

I hope you get it figured out and it's nothing major.

[Nate152]

Ok, if there is only one or a couple bent pins, you can fix it yourself with a round wooden toothpick and a magnifying glass in good light. Take your time to look close and carefully.

A good eye and a steady hand are key, I've seen members here with bent cpu socket pins straighten them with success. If it's more than a couple then yikes.

Go ahead and remove the cpu and cooler and have a look, what would be awesome is if you could take a picture of the cpu socket at a couple different angles and post them here. If it looks good you don't have to bother with the pictures.

If you were careful installing the cpu, let's hope for no bent pins.