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Rampage V Extreme vs Maximus Formula VII

Atovv
Level 7
Hello


I know the differences between the Rampage V Extreme VS. the Maximus Formula VII by brochure if we can call it that way.


Anyway I own both motherboards with this setup


Rampage V Extreme with a i7 5820K @ 4.43 GHZ - MB & Proc
Kingston Predator DDR4 3000 mhz (4 x 4 GB Pack) - Mem
CM Nepton 280L - Water Cooling
Corsair AX 1200i - PS
2 x Gigabyte GTX 980 G1 Gaming - Video Card
Corsair 900D - Case
SSD Kingston HyperX 3K (480 GB) - SSD

The other setup is:

Maximus Formula VII with a i7 4790K (stock) - MB & Proc
GSKILL Trident X DDR3 (4GB x 2) 2400 MHZ
CM Nepton 280L - Water Cooling
EVGA Supernova 1300 G2 - PS
1 x EVGA GTX 960 Ref. - Video Card
CM Cosmos II Ultra Tower - Case
SSD Kingston HyperX 3K (480 GB) - SSD



Well Ive been running games and all sort of stuff, but my main question is this.

Why a the Rampage V startup is twice the time of the Maximus Formula VII ??. I mean twice the time between the start button until Im in desktop. Both game same games, same UEFI installation, same SSD. I know I can disable in the Bios stuff to go faster in the boot time. But I am talking in stock, the Maximus Formula is twice as fast.


Also for gaming I understand that the Maximus Forumula is more than enough. But for gaming and and nice OC, the Rampage V is the best (please let me know if Im wrong)



Besides those two things, what else in real world are the difference for paying the real buck. I mean a X99 setup is almost as twice as expensive as a Z97 setup.


Thanks for your time and please if I'm wrong please let me know, I just notice that because my wife plays in the Z97 setup and I'm playing in the X99 Setup and she always boots twice as fast !! 😞 gotta know why lol.
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Chino
Level 15
The X99 platform is way more complex than the Z97 platform. That means memory PCIe training take a little longer. An alternative to disabling things in the BIOS ia to put your system to sleep instead of shutting it down.

Chino wrote:
The X99 platform is way more complex than the Z97 platform. That means memory PCIe training take a little longer. An alternative to disabling things in the BIOS ia to put your system to sleep instead of shutting it down.


Thats a good way, but I was just asking to now about it.


Besides the boot timing. Whats the real difference between them. Is it worth getting a X99 vs an Z97? Worth 2x price ?

gamestoned
Level 7
Hi Atow,

I'm in a situvation where I'm going to make a decision between the 2 boards you have.

Intel Core i7-5820K Processor (15M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)
Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 16GB (4X4GB) 3000MHz Ultimate DDR4
Cost = $1175-$1200 from the place I'm buying

vs

Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Asus MAXIMUS VII FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Intel Z97
G.Skill TridentX 16GB (2X8GB) 2400Mhz DDR3
Cost = $960-$1000 from the place I'm buying

They are going to be suited with the following
Corsair H110i GT Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
SanDisk Extreme PRO 480GB Solid State Drive
WD Black 4TB SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache
ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB GTX 980 TI-6Gd5
Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full Tower ATX Case
Pioneer BDR-209DBK 16x SATA Internal BD/DVD/CD Burner
Corsair AX860i 80+ Platinum Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan
Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 120mm Fan

My questions
1) Do you think the Z97 is better than X99 in terms of gaming/overclocking stability+performance
2) I play mostly in 1080p now but going to get the ROG Swift 1440p monitor so which build is better for playing games with a 980 TI
3) Is it worth to invest in X99 over Z97 now since already the new M170 boards are in market for Skylake processors + new DDR4 Ram clocks coming soon.

Hope anyone in this forum can help me out here.

Paul

Nate152
Moderator
Hello gamestoned

If you're just gaming the z-97 with a 4790k cpu would be the best choice price to performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-te...

The only reason I see to go with the x99 platform for gaming is if you're doing 3 way or 4 way sli. You'd need the 5930k or 5960x with the available 40 pcie lanes. The z97 boards that support 3 way and 4 way sli have a plx chip that adds the pcie lanes which introduces a slight latency.

even in 2 way sli u lose about 3-4 fps on a non 40 lane board, but yea i guess it is pretty small number but i just had to have 5930k just like the sound of it hahah and the fact that a 4.7ghz 4790k is 10 fps slower in games than a 4.7ghz 5930k, but depends if 10-14 fps is worth that extra money to ya but in games that use more cores than 4 which quite a few do now like dying light and bf4 u can ezily see a 30+ fps increase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CppDFcn8ul8

Korth
Level 14
I'm speculating that future LGA2011-3 processors will support >40 lanes ... X99 running x16/x16/x16 (or more) multi-GPU is probably going to roll out in 2016. LGA1150 processors (and Z97 mobos) probably won't ever exceed x8/x8, and we're already seeing some extreme-tier GPU cards which can fully saturate PCIe 3.0 bandwidths. In short, while there are tradeoffs and special considerations between Z97 and X99 today, I expect (hope) that X99 will emerge as the clearly dominant winner within the next year or two.
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