RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION & SABERTOOTH X79 ..dual channel ram sticks??????

[fm_sam_bahadur]

RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION & SABERTOOTH X79 can support dual channel ram sticks??????
i was thinking 2 bay dual channel ram sticks for sabertooth x79 16gb (2 x 8)....... but now m confused where dual channel will be good or not......

[Arne_Saknussemm]

Hi fm sam bahadur 🙂

You can run one dual channel kit on both boards in dual channel....but if you mean you want to try to run two dual channel kits together as a quad channel set up then I would strongly advise against it. Get one single quad channel kit of whatever size you need. Running multiple kits even of same make and model is never a good idea and indeed the RAM manufacturers themselves advise against this. X79 in particular hates this...or rather the CPUs you run on X79 in general don't do this well at all...

[fm_sam_bahadur]

Arne Saknussemm wrote:
Hi fm sam bahadur 🙂

You can run one dual channel kit on both boards in dual channel....but if you mean you want to try to run two dual channel kits together as a quad channel set up then I would strongly advise against it. Get one single quad channel kit of whatever size you need. Running multiple kits even of same make and model is never a good idea and indeed the RAM manufacturers themselves advise against this. X79 in particular hates this...or rather the CPUs you run on X79 in general don't do this well at all...

i was thinking 2 bay corsair 8gb (2 x 😎 total 16gb (CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10)

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/ASUS_Quad_Channel.gif

(2 DIMMs in pic)

yes and thnx for ur replay

[Arne_Saknussemm]

Well you could do that yes...those single sticks are supposed to work in dual channel mode and the RIVBE and Sabretooth support dual channel....

BUT! one of the main reasons for buying x79 is to run quad channel RAM!

So, possible...yes but I would try and find a quad channel kit if I were you...

[fm_sam_bahadur]

Arne Saknussemm wrote:
Well you could do that yes...those single sticks are supposed to work in dual channel mode and the RIVBE and Sabretooth support dual channel....

BUT! one of the main reasons for buying x79 is to run quad channel RAM!

So, possible...yes but I would try and find a quad channel kit if I were you...

haha i also want it ...........but $ matter.........i can upgrade it after some time right?
i do rendring and 3d modding so that y i will get 64 gb ram ......after some time....... and coz of that m going with 8-8 gbs 2 DIMMs ......thnx 4 rplay u saved ma life from morning i was luking for my answer......and atlas i got it......thnx

[Arne_Saknussemm]

If by upgrade you mean add another two sticks of the same RAM then no...I would not advise that. X79 is very picky with RAM. Trying to run four of those sticks together could be difficult or impossible. If you mean buy a quad channel kit at a later date then sure...run dual channel for now...

Unless you really need 16GB of RAM I think I would prefer to run say 8GB (great for gaming and general computing) quad channel with higher frequency...something like this...might be around the same price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231517

[fm_sam_bahadur]

Arne Saknussemm wrote:
If by upgrade you mean add another two sticks of the same RAM then no...I would not advise that. X79 is very picky with RAM. Trying to run four of those sticks together could be difficult or impossible. If you mean buy a quad channel kit at a later date then sure...run dual channel for now...

Unless you really need 16GB of RAM I think I would prefer to run say 8GB (great for gaming and general computing) quad channel with higher frequency...something like this...might be around the same price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231517

i didnt get one thing..... what is difference between 4 ram sticks and quad channel kit???????
and what is ram timing????? where it is use?????

[Arne_Saknussemm]

fm sam bahadur wrote:
i didnt get one thing..... what is difference between 4 ram sticks and quad channel kit???????
and what is ram timing????? where it is use?????

A quad channel kit is 4 sticks of RAM that have been tested to work together. If you buy four sticks of RAM and try to run them together you will probably encounter problems since they have not been tested to work together. The single sticks you were looking at appear to have been shown to work together in dual channel but more than that is not guaranteed. Likewise combining two dual channel kits is not the same as having a quad channel kit. A dual channel kit is two dimms that have been tested together.

Even if you buy the same make and model of RAM from the same supplier on the same day it is unlikely that the kits that arrive will run well together since they might have been produced days or weeks apart and even the RAM chips that make up the dimm might be from different production lines/lots etc. and even chips from the same line and lot have enough variation that they need testing to work together.

Timings are the numbers associated with the RAM. First comes frequency...like 1600MHz 2133 MHz etc and then a list of primary timings....in the format 10-10-10-27. the first number in that group is arguably the most important and is known as "CAS"....the CAS10 from the kit product number.

If you divide the CAS number (10) by the frequency of the RAM 1600 and times by 2000 you get a number in nanoseconds for judging RAM speed. (10/1600)x2000= 12.5ns

Just as an example comparing that to the kit I linked (9/2133)x2000= 8.43ns.....so a faster kit.

Though for most day to day computing this difference in speed is not really noticeable...

I'm not sure what you want to use your PC for so it's hard to make a call on the RAM but in general day to day computing and gaming 8GB is great and 1600 or 1866 is fast enough...especially with low cas numbers like 7 or 8 for 1600 or 8 or 9 for 1866. If you are doing lots of photo work or video encoding or specialized computing you may need 16GB or 32 GB and faster frequencies....2133 or 2400+

[fm_sam_bahadur]

Arne Saknussemm wrote:
A quad channel kit is 4 sticks of RAM that have been tested to work together. If you buy four sticks of RAM and try to run them together you will probably encounter problems since they have not been tested to work together. The single sticks you were looking at appear to have been shown to work together in dual channel but more than that is not guaranteed. Likewise combining two dual channel kits is not the same as having a quad channel kit. A dual channel kit is two dimms that have been tested together.

Even if you buy the same make and model of RAM from the same supplier on the same day it is unlikely that the kits that arrive will run well together since they might have been produced days or weeks apart and even the RAM chips that make up the dimm might be from different production lines/lots etc. and even chips from the same line and lot have enough variation that they need testing to work together.

Timings are the numbers associated with the RAM. First comes frequency...like 1600MHz 2133 MHz etc and then a list of primary timings....in the format 10-10-10-27. the first number in that group is arguably the most important and is known as "CAS"....the CAS10 from the kit product number.

If you divide the CAS number (10) by the frequency of the RAM 1600 and times by 2000 you get a number in nanoseconds for judging RAM speed. (10/1600)x2000= 12.5ns

Just as an example comparing that to the kit I linked (9/2133)x2000= 8.43ns.....so a faster kit.

Though for most day to day computing this difference in speed is not really noticeable...

I'm not sure what you want to use your PC for so it's hard to make a call on the RAM but in general day to day computing and gaming 8GB is great and 1600 or 1866 is fast enough...especially with low cas numbers like 7 or 8 for 1600 or 8 or 9 for 1866. If you are doing lots of photo work or video encoding or specialized computing you may need 16GB or 32 GB and faster frequencies....2133 or 2400+

thnx now m geting it

[Zka17]

RAM kits have binned/specially selected individual modules to work together... Because of the manufacturing process, there are no two identical chips or modules... - that's why a kit is always more expensive than the same number of modules (because they are selected)