Problems with X870e Hero motherboard and EXPO profiles

[CptMario]

Hi! I made a video of the problem im experiencing and a temporary fix. Maybe someone will find this post useful,  I hope someone from ASUS sees this and updates the BIOS with these fixes or provides some technical support in the comments below. Its very frustrating dealing with this and this is not the first time im having issues with asus motherboards. Thank you, please watch the video.   https://youtu.be/H8FdNK10H2w?feature=shared 

My PC:
Ryzen 9 7950x3d
X870e hero
64 gb  ram - G. Skill Trident Z5 Neo 2x32 GB Model: F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5N
RTX 4080 super Suprim X
x2 NVME ssd 990pro 1 tb and 4 tb both working fine

Win 11 64bit pro

[Darkness666]

Hello,
Can you test my solution page 10 ? I discribed a method to force the BIOS to set the ram stick by stick.
The most important is to have the memories listed in the official QVL  by Asus.

Disconnect all the peripherical of your PC (USB port, Pcie Cards, and if you have an NVME or SSD, just use the disk with the right systems, not use the PCi 5.0 M.2 and use only the PCi 4.0 port of your motherboard.

MY MOTHERBOARD : ProArt X870E
BIOS : 0606 (EXPO work on this BIOS, I don't now on the 0706)
RAM : CORSAIR 2x32gb - 6000Mhz - CL30 - ref.: CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30K
PROCESSOR : Ryzen 9600X

- Boot only with one stick of RAM, all stock configuration.
- Change Disable by Enable EXPO in EZ-Mode (by default it's EXPO-1 in advanced mode)
- Save & Exit
- Normaly, you think it's not boot because the orange LED stay fix, but I taken a chrono and we need to wait alway 60 second maximum, and it's boot ! After this 60 sec. if you have not boot, try again with a clear CMOS.
- After this, boot windows normaly and just check the speed to be sure the EXPO is activate.
- I creat an USB boot with Memtest, and the first stick of ram pass all of them. (1h40 of test... for the 4 pass)
- Restart and go in the BIOS, Disable the EXPO
- Shutdown your PC and exange the ram by the other. (only one stick it's important)
- Start the PC and go in the BIOS and reactivat EXPO
- Restart and wait maximum 60 sec. normaly your PC start, for me I need to retry 2 or 3 time with CLEAR CMOS... BUT after this the PC start again with EXPO.
- Boot on MemoryTest and test again the memory, 1h40 ... (mine passed all of them too, so the memory are ok)
- Shutdown the PC
- The two memories have a number, insert the stick with number 1 in A2 DIMM and the other on B2 DIMM)
- Restart, EXPO is already activate and normaly after 60 sec.... it's pass the orange LED !
- After this check the speed in windows, and I start lot of test with OCCT / Geekbench / Cinebench and no problem.
- Restart your computer, shutdown, and now it start really fast.

I have the impression that the motherboard simply cannot activate EXPO when it has both memories connected.
For the second stick, the first time I had trouble getting started with EXPO and I was going to return the RAMs even though they were absolutely not at fault.

[Silent_Scone]

Remember to post specs when reporting issues. That includes memory kit part numbers 

[jnormen]

ok 🙂 sorry

ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO
Kingston Fury Beast 2x32 CL32 6400mhz (listed in Asus mem list for this board)
Asus Tuf 4090 OC
Amd 9800x3d

[neopassive]

Just trying to use them at their advertised speed, not overclocked. The board is supposed to be able to handle this. Maybe just fix the bios so we can close the thread? 🙄

[Deltron3030]

I posted a working fix on page 9

[Ash0_]

Has there been any update on this since version 0706 released? Do we have any confirmation Asus is working on a fix for this issue?

[TheAlly]

This thread is a month old and there isn't an indication they're closer to a fix let alone acknowledgment of the problem. Return the board and get different one if you're still in the return period.

[Silent_Scone]

The problem is most users associate overclocking instability with a "BIOS problem", which simply isn't true. Overclocking doesn't come with assurances. That's why the UEFI comes with a complete array of voltage, timing and ODT settings to help fine-tune memory (CPU variance is real).

That said, there have been a large number of reports of users with A-die kits that have been having poor "out of the box" overclocking experiences with EXPO profiles on the last two AGESAs, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. I have been collecting kit part numbers to aid in replication or to see if there is in-fact a problem that can be improved upon. I haven't been experiencing any problems manually tuning my M-die kits on the Hero.

[mrdagger]

I posted all numbers earlier, 9800x3d, gskill trident neo 6000, and Asus strix 870e-e; and I assure you.  0606 loaded and no changes but selecting any Expo profile does not boot.   Tried for days, posted parts and still waiting.  Are we saying 0606 works for all boards?  Seriously, flash bios, select an expo profile and that should be it, right?  

[Silent_Scone]

No, not always. EXPO is still overclocking.

Despite what marketing might suggest, EXPO does not guarantee seamless overclocking. The tighter the memory timings or the higher the frequency relative to stock specifications, the greater the likelihood that manual adjustments will be necessary to achieve stability depending on the CPU. VSOC and VDDIO specifically on AM5 can still be key.

To improve the chances of EXPO working successfully—and for memory overclocking in general—it's wise to select memory kits rated one or two bins below the maximum frequency your motherboard officially supports (on AM5 either at 1:1 or 1:2).

However, as said previously, I've communicated internally regarding the recent influx of cases using a-die memory kits.