Need assistance finding the limit of my 4770k(temps not a factor)

[krhagene]

I recently bought this kit for my EK waterblock:
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-supremacy-precisemount-add-on-naked-ivy
My cpu was already delidded a few years ago so I thought why not.

Temps before “naked mount”:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DlNV9JcWZ3ZkdTaHc
After:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DlMmhkTFl2UnJoNFU

It's been really fun to overclock the last few days but I seem to have hit a bit of a wall on 4.9ghz / 1.44v. It's quite stable but not enough for 24/7/365.
Some documentation I’ve done:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DlZ2w1M2xXQmg4S2s

I’ve been running “eventual CPU input Voltage” at 2.01 before on my other overclocks. But now I seem to run into instability no matter what, input 2.3v, vcore 1.55v, doesn’t matter after starting occt it fails after 10 seconds to 2-3 minutes. 4.8ghz / 1.4v vcore / 2.1v input seems good and ran between 4 and 5 hours occt stress test before it failed, probably needs a little bumb on voltage, haven't had the time to test more yet. It boots to 5ghz but can’t really do anything other than screenshot it. So my goal would be 4.9.

I’m a little uncomfortable increasing my input voltage above 2.1v. But if it dies, whatever, it will suck but I got money saved up for a new pc parts (cpu/Mobo/ram). Not sure if anyone has anything to say about where the limit is with the input voltage?

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Stats from my previous overclocks on this cpu:
(Input voltage : 2.01v 😞
4.4ghz / 1.18vcore / 4.4ghz ring/ 1.2v adaptive ring
4.5ghz/ 1.26vcore / 4.5ghz ring / 1.3v adaptive ring
4.7ghz/ 1.38vcore / 4.5ghz ring / 1.3v adaptive ring

(Input voltage : 2.1v):
4.8ghz / 1.4vcore / Auto ring / Auto ring voltage (stable)
4.9ghz/ 1.44vcore/ Auto ring / Auto ring voltage (unstable, kinda ok for daily use tho (5h of linpack was fine))

(Input voltage: 2-2.3v)
4.9ghz/ 1.4-1.5v. (anything above or below 1.44 makes it more unstable:S)

(C states / turbo / EIST / spread spectrum / and a bunch of other things disabled to eliminate instabilities when I’m overclocking.Vcore on manual. Most other voltages and settings on auto)
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I’m not that patient with reading forums so if anyone has any ideas for previous experience I’d LOVE(!) if you could help me out. (probably get a lot of these “stupid” questions/ posts)

(I suppose you need some of my bios information may be, I can add that to the google drive, but what, my overclocking profile on a file or something like that?)

4770k
Asus z87 gene
16gig 1600mhz cl8 ram
Corsair AX860i PSU
3x 140mm rad with custom watercooling on the cpu (420 blaze it)

[Nate152]

Haha you're braver than I am. 🙂

I prefer ROG realbench, reason why is it gives the lowest cpu temps of any stress testing program I've tried while still putting 100% load on it.

Give it a try and see if your temps are about 10c cooler. Click stress test beside benchmark and select how many GB of ram you have, the 15 minute test is fine.

http://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

[krhagene]

Nate152 wrote:
Haha you're braver than I am. 🙂

I prefer ROG realbench, reason why is it gives the lowest cpu temps of any stress testing program I've tried while still putting 100% load on it.

Give it a try and see if your temps are about 10c cooler. Click stress test beside benchmark and select how many GB of ram you have, the 15 minute test is fine.

http://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

I'll give it a try but thermals seem to be a non issue now even at 1.55v. But may be if I try above that it could be handy. I really trust OCCT a lot tho, even if it runs a little warm it will save you a ton of time.

[Nate152]

Ok if temps aren't a problem get 4.8GHz stable then try for 4.9GHz.

To ignore the voltage, in the bios go to the monitoring tab and set the cpu voltage to ignore, you'll no longer get the cpu overvoltage message. I wouldn't recommend going above 1.65v.

[krhagene]

4.9 ghz seems unwilling to cooperate:S
Atleast I beat my old cinebench R15 scrore at 982(with cpu running at 4.77ghz):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DlNGUyMXBpRnE0dm8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DleVhOX0Z3a25uSjg
I was hoping I could reach 1000 points but I guess not with this cpu.

System feels real snappy tho, so I guess I'll settle for 4.8ghz 2200mhz ram for now. Try and dial that in with lowest possible voltages.

[Nate152]

You got it and that's where I'd run, your ram looks great at 2200MHz and cl9, good job there too !

4.8GHz is fast, if 4.9GHz won't go no use in forcing it. 🙂

You could try overclocking the BCLK, it's a minimal gain in performance but still a gain. You should be able to get around 120 - 125 BCLK. Have you ever overclocked the BCLK?

[krhagene]

I did some BLCK overclocking once, I think i got to 101.4. But I was getting wierd bugs,with graphics etc. Never tried the other cpu straps like 125 etc.

This shouldn't work? wtf?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DlM1RHMDFvWHVtYjQ

[Nate152]

Something looks out of whack here, your vcore in HWMonitor is showing .656v no way can that be a correct reading under load.

The cpu core in Aida64 looks like the VID in HWMonitor.

[krhagene]

yeah don't pay attention to the vcore in hw monitor or cpuz, its never correct(used to be on older versions may be). If I enable VID in aida 64 it reads the same value as vcore.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9CyJiyzx3DlRTZxM0lkbngzR1k

[krhagene]

Not sure what it is, if its cause I'm pushing the input voltage high or the 30c lower temps since I did the direct die install but its behaving very diffrenltly compared to before. Like it even boots to windows on 1.275 v/ 4.8ghz.

Edit: Just tried to put the input voltage back down to 2v (from 2.2v) and it couldn't start the stress test then so I think thats it. trying 2.05v now.

[Nate152]

I never used Aida64 so I can't help with that and have no idea what to suggest. I do know running multiple monitoring programs can make readings go haywire, I wonder if that's what might be going on here?