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How: Lower Temps 7700X on X67e EXTREME! undervolting?

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i want to lower Temps on my Zen4! At boot, i have 40 degrees.
I have EXPO mode on and no overclock.
at windows log in, the temps rises from 70 degrees to 75! without doing anything.

i have tried to enable AMD ECO MODE but NOTHING changes, same TEMPS, no change whatsoever (i have already contacted ASUS but no reply).
i have seen with underclocking and undervolting i can get better temps!

but i do not know what settings i should go for. i am not a pro Ocer!
I need STABLE speed and Lower temps.

do you have any suggestions? i am feel so angry that i did not wait for the Non X parts that have perfect temps..