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Help with Overclocking 4790k

xCaptKirk
Level 7
I have a new system I just build. Asus Hero VII mobo, 4790k processor and h105 for cooling. I saw another post about overclocking by setting voltage to 1.25 and bumping the core ratio and running prime95 with small fft test my temps in about 10 seconds with real temp hit 90+ celcius. Is something wrong with my cooler or thermal compound?
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xCaptKirk
Level 7
Also if I use intel extreme tuning utility and stress test for 5 min highest core is 75c. Is latest versions of prime 95 just to much?

jab383
Level 13
Hi xCaptKirk, and welcome

Prime 95 runs the CPU very hot and still isn't a very stringent stability test. XTU is mostly another implementation of Prime95. I recommend Realbench to test for stabilty of most overclocks and OCCT for competitive profiles. OCCT is a high temperature test, but it really checks the stability. Realbench tests the whole system in a real-world way that holds down temperatures. The Realbench benchmark is also a friendly competition. Download Realbench from this forum - the Realbench section.

What CPU clock was running at 1.25 Vcore? That has something to do with heat, too. Also, what TIM?

With my 4790K, not delidded, with MX-4 TIM and water cooling, OCCT burned 137 watts and temperature rose to 91C. That was at 4.4GHz Core clock and 1.25 Vcore. That's close to your situation, from what I'm reading. A better TIM, or thin full-cover application may improve cooling a little. To make a big difference, the CPU would have to be delidded and the internal TIM replaced with liquid metal. That's not recommended unless you're really into benchmarking. Liquid metal TIM and delidding are each risky steps.

These two guides from the ROG site will help fill in more about overclocking. They are for Maximus VI series boards and the 4770K, but apply equally to Maximus VII and the 4790K.


http://rog.asus.com/254052013/maximus-motherboards/recommended-settings-for-overclocking-maximus-vi-...

http://rog.asus.com/242142013/labels/rog-exclusive/maximus-vi-series-uefi-guide-for-overclocking/


Jeff

xCaptKirk
Level 7
I basically tried setting the core voltage at 1.25 and the core ratio to 46 for 4.6ghz. I ran realbench and intel's xtu and had no issues. I played planetside 2 for about an hour and highest temp was high 50'scelcius. I can't remember what the temps were for realbench. Also my frequency will drop at idle which is what I want but is it ok for the voltage to stay at 1.25(I assume so but thought I would ask). I really would like for someone to help walk me through an overclock my goal is 4.6ghz.

xCaptKirk
Level 7
Or should I just reset everything to stock and just let it boost to 4.4 and be happy with that? Or should I leave the core ratio to 46 and start lowering the core voltage to see where it stands since less voltage will be less heat?

NemesisChild
Level 12
Look into adaptive CPU overclocking, the Vcore will also throttle down when not under heavy load.
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jab383
Level 13
With the core ratio at that voltage, you probably have an above average CPU. The pre-programmed boost works for many CPUs, but is the right setting for very few that are average or just below. You can leave it with the settings you have, but when speed drops it needs less voltage, power and heat. The guides - the ones I cited and others on the subject of offset power - can get you to either higher clocks or lower voltage.

The general process starting where you are is to lower voltage in small steps until some stability test fails - usually a blue screen.

The other way is to raise the ratio, then step voltage up taking blue screen after blue screen until a stability test passes.

Raise the voltage to a point where the test passed and run normal operation for a while - the real stability test is in doing the things you normally do. Power saving can be had by enabling EIST - speedstep, which you may already have, turbo and offset core voltage mode. Core voltage would then track CPU load.

Unfortunately there is too much variation among Haswell CPUs for OC profiles to be interchangeable. I can't tell an exact figure for either voltage or ratio that will work on your CPU. Most of the ... fun of overclocking is homing in on the right point for that one CPU.

Jeff

xCaptKirk
Level 7
I decided to run realbench for the stress test for 15minutes. I changed the core ratio back to 4.6 and changed offset to default and OC to 1.195. I noticed with coretemp that the voltage ranged from 1.1979 for the biggest part and it would go up to 1.229 briefly. I'm attaching the screenshot of coretemp. Should I just leave it alone.
Here is the screenshot. http://i.imgur.com/9HH7Q2j.png
Tell me what you think.

jab383
Level 13
4.6GHz with Vcore less than 1.20 is a VERY good CPU. Rises to 1.23 or so in heavy stress can be expected with those offset settings. The temperatures in the upper 70Cs during Realbench stress are okay, too. Some of us think the Realbench benchmark is a better stability test. Have you tried it?

Jeff

I just did a 15 minute stress test to see what temps looked like since prime 95 was just insanely hot almost too hot even at stock settings. So I used realbench instead for the 15 minute stress test. When playing something like planetside 2 for extended periods temps stayed in the 50's