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Corsair H80 Fans (Caution!)

General_Dischar
Level 7
I installed a "Brand New" H80 setup when i first built my system. This closed Loop System never leaked a drop of coolant. The fans of the H80 did however throw grease or something of that nature from the center of the fan shaft area (in small amounts). The substance was all over the inside of both fan shrouds. :eek:

I returned the product to Microcenter and they gladly refunded my money. 😮 I bought a Thermaltake Bigwater 760 Plus before leaving Microcenter. I decided with the thermaltake over the corsair because the pump was larger and faster, also the hose diameter was greater. I now have the ability to add things to my cooling loop in the future. Why did Corsair put the pump right on the cpu anyways? :confused: I thought pumps create heat in the process of performing work.

So I guess if your planning on buying a H80 or H anything I would run the fans for a day outside the system before installing them just to play it safe. You wouldnt want to get that substance on your components. If you currently have an H80 or H anything you might want to do an inspection in case you need a napkin in there like i did.
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Area_66
Level 11
You should start a tread "Thermaltake Bigwater 760 (caution) " , if it's not too late return it to microcenter ..... the rad is in aluminum, this is a bid NO and No it react with copper, it's why Thermaltake fill it with a lot of Ethylene Glycol , pay attention to that stuff it's poisonous like hell. I have an old Bigwater, this is not efficient at all for a single CPU, don’t expect to add more thing to the loop. I’m not kidding look I test it :


NemesisChild
Level 12
That's one of the reason I bought an H70, I'm using my own fans, their fans are crap.
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Thanks for the heads up. I did notice that there was a newer box and an older box for the 760 plus when i was shopping. I grabbed the latest most recently released box out of the two. Do you think they may have discovered this through feedback from customer complaints and fixed this issue? I noticed yours is not a "plus", whats the difference? I will take it back but what is my reason for returning it exactly? I need a valid complaint which i am sure you have discovered, I just dont fully understand it to tell Microcenter.

What is the best LGA 2011 block on the market?

What is the best block available for the R4E?

Im all ears for any opinions here. I was considering a H100 over the bigwater and adding better fans to the 240mm radiator. The 240mm radiator will fit perfectly in my Level 10 GT. However its what i said in the first post about the pump and also the diameter of the tiny hoses that kept me from doing so.
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Area_66
Level 11
Mine is old, I have it since few years, but I check your's and it's still Aluminum, just told your H100 was giving better results, it's true anyway .

what they change, from the pic and spec, it's the same pump, the pump is actually quite good , I use one from anohter kit in one of my build since 3 years, the also have a reaostat for the pump speed I guess, and they have a new universal block for the CPU, the rest look the same, keep in mind I don't search I just look, so it's not really reliable.. lol

look here the spec of the rad .... Aluminum

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00001791

Baalberith
Level 7
Had exactly the same, some oily substance was disperced on the housing of the inner fan.
The radiator is completely clean and dry, so it had to came from the inside of the fan(s).
Maybe time for some 3rd party fans like Scythe...
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General_Dischar
Level 7
I found this while researching why the corrosion occurs.

The oxidation process that gives copper its characteristic green patina is a result of exposure to an acidic atmosphere. When acidic moisture comes in contact with exposed copper surfaces, it reacts with the copper to form copper sulfate. The acid is neutralized during the reaction with the copper. This patina eventually covers the surface and adheres tightly to it, thus providing a protective layer against further weathering.


Corrosion:
All metals have a property called nobility. It is a measure of a metal's resistance to corrosion when in contact with another metal. A greater relative difference in nobility between the two metals in contact indicates a greater corrosion potential. Table 1.1.4 ranks the most common metals used in construction in increasing nobility, called the galvanic number.

Table 1.1.4 - The Nobility of Common Metals







1. Aluminum
2. Zinc
3. Steel
4. Iron
5. Stainless Steel - Active
6. Tin
7. Lead
8. Copper
9. Stainless Steel - Passive
The galvanic scale to the left contains a partial list of commonly used construction metals.




When dissimilar metals are in contact with one another in the presence of an electrolyte, galvanic action occurs, resulting in the deterioration of the metal with the lower galvanic number. The electrolyte may be rain water running from one surface to another, or moisture from the air containing enough acid to cause it to act as an electrolyte. In our case its the water systems coolant.
Since copper has one of the highest galvanic numbers or nobility of the active metals, *it will not be harmed by contact with any of them.
(*New information from other sources: Please take note that some facts are now becoming evident that... It will, however, cause corrosion of the other metals if in direct contact. The solution is to prevent such direct contact with the use of separating materials, such as specific paints or gaskets.
It is not necessary to isolate copper from lead, tin or stainless steel under most circumstances. The principal metals of concern in terms of direct contact are aluminum and zinc.
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General_Dischar
Level 7
After reading this I would assume that Stainless Steel 316 (Food Grade) would be superior to all materals for water cooling components due to the fact that it is inert to water. Distilled water would be superior to all coolant in my opinion because any total dissolved solids in your coolant are just adding electronic conductivity to your coolant. Thus increasing the corrosion rate since it is an electrolysis process causing the corrosion. Of course the drawback for the SS316 would simply be its hardness, thus making it hard to cut for the manufacturer.
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Area_66
Level 11
oh boy, I don't need to research about this, especially with the EK saga of last year. Stainless is not a good conductor for heat

Good point, but with the strength it has it could be made very thin.

The best conductor of electricity is silver, though gold is used more often because it does not oxidize. Silver wire conducts better than gold wire but gold contacts would be more desirable than silver contacts due to corrosion reasons. Copper, silver, and gold are all very close in conductivity. I would think that the best material to use for cooling components would have high electrical resistance as well as high heat conductivity. This is gonna take some research for me. Its mainly to satisfy my brains curiosity to figure out the very best method.

The best conductor of heat is Helium (in its Helium II liquid state), which can conduct heat better than diamond or silver.

It should be noted that at temperatures approaching absolute zero the metal lead becomes a superconductor, giving zero resistance to the flow of electricity.
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