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ROGBot
Hai guys:)
I have some technical questions that i wonna ask, as i can't find it properly with google. I know everybody is looking forward to get there hands on this monitor, just like me:cool: But there are some technical specs i don't fully understand, so hopefully some hard technics can give me some clear answers here:o
1. HDMI 1.4 support: Is my gpu "ASUS Matrix 5870 Platinum" 3D Ready & so as far that i have searched, my card has HDMI 1.3 & i'm able to plug in a 1.4 cable to enjoy the 3D content like it should be right, beceaues it is backwards compatible?
2.Nvidia 3D Version kit is onboard, so nothing to buy seperatly, but could i have some compatibility issues with my gpu (Intel nvidia 3D Vision, Amd HD3D) or doesn't make any difference?
Ok that were the questions so far, thnx for the help!;)
I have some technical questions that i wonna ask, as i can't find it properly with google. I know everybody is looking forward to get there hands on this monitor, just like me:cool: But there are some technical specs i don't fully understand, so hopefully some hard technics can give me some clear answers here:o
1. HDMI 1.4 support: Is my gpu "ASUS Matrix 5870 Platinum" 3D Ready & so as far that i have searched, my card has HDMI 1.3 & i'm able to plug in a 1.4 cable to enjoy the 3D content like it should be right, beceaues it is backwards compatible?
2.Nvidia 3D Version kit is onboard, so nothing to buy seperatly, but could i have some compatibility issues with my gpu (Intel nvidia 3D Vision, Amd HD3D) or doesn't make any difference?
Ok that were the questions so far, thnx for the help!;)
Brian@ASUS wrote:
your matrix 580 is 3D vision ready. and it comes with a dual link DVI cable that should be used for 3D. HDMI 1.4 is used for mobile devices like our G series notebooks that support 1.4hdmi so that you can do 3D gaming on the 27inch monitor
intel does not support 3d vision as it is primarily for nvidia graphics. amd will not work as well.
So what you are saying is, that if i buy this monitor, i will not be able to play in 3D, beceause i have an amd gpu?! 😞 And the 1.4a hdmi output that is on the monitor, i can not connect with a hdmi 1.4 cable to my gpu that has 1.3 hdmi? Beceause many forums i've read, says that it doesn't matther witch mark off gpu you have, beceause the 3D glaces sync with the 3D monitor & not with the gpu! Is that right?
RoG wrote:
So what you are saying is, that if i buy this monitor, i will not be able to play in 3D, beceause i have an amd gpu?! 😞 And the 1.4a hdmi output that is on the monitor, i can not connect with a hdmi 1.4 cable to my gpu that has 1.3 hdmi? Beceause many forums i've read, says that it doesn't matther witch mark off gpu you have, beceause the 3D glaces sync with the 3D monitor & not with the gpu! Is that right?
Please can someone give me a straight answer, beceause i still don't fully understand, that i would buy the monitor or not?! Beceause if i'm not able to enjoy the full hd 3D feature from nvidia, just beceause my specs are amd, it's awaste of allote of money...:(It is a good monitor beside the
3D thing, but i want to be able to fully enjoy the monitors features!
Haydon wrote:
Here's the full straight Answer. Absolutely zero video cards with GPU chips made by AMD/ATI/INTEL will work at 120 Hz (60 per eye) at 1920x1080p resolution. AMD chips including the 5870 that you have, as well as the newest intel chips, support 3d by way of HDMI 1.4a spec transmission.
What this means is that if you own an AMD or Intel GPU only, you can only get 3d in the following high resoultions and framerate:
1280x720 @ 120 Hz (60 per eye) aka 720p60 per eye
1920x1080 @ 48 Hz (24 per eye) aka 1080p24 per eye
1920x1080 @ 60 Hz (30 per eye) aka 1080p30 per eye
1920x540 (interlaced - half vertical resolution of a 1920x1080 frame)@ 120 Hz (60 per eye at half resolution) aka 1080i60 per eye
The ONLY way to get what you probably want which is
1920x1080 @ 120Hz (60 per eye full resolution) aka 1080p60 per eye
is to have an NVIDIA GPU. 1080p60 x2 can only currently be accomplished with a DVI-D cable and an NVIDIA video card. Note that is not a normal DVI cable. It's the kind used to connect 2560x1600 monitors.
What this boils down to is this:
Video games suck in anything less than 60 fps for any extended period of time. Eye strain and general annoyance of jumpiness can become a serious problem for most people. If both eyes are not getting 60 Hz, this will occur. This means if you are getting this monitor for the purpose of video gaming at full 1080p resolution, you better also plan to go buy an NVIDIA card as well. With an AMD card you will get a maximum of 30 fps in games at the visual level, meaning lots of jumpiness to the appearance of play.
If you are willing to play at 1280x720 resolution or lower, this monitor will work at the full 120Hz (60 Hz per eye). If you just want to watch 3D-blu rays or videos, this monitor will also be fine with an AMD card. Videos do not need 60fps per eye to look good as they are not composed of perfect photograph images in every frame like a video game is. Videos are made up of blurred together images recorded at 24 Hz per eye that accomodate for the low frame-rate. It's sort of a built in time-lapse effect that is made by the moving object being recorded by the camera.
Thnx for the straight answer ;)!
Si if i fully understand this...
I can run 3D games with my gpu, but only @ 720 (hd) & not 1080p (full hd), to do that i must buy another nvidia gpu?
Whene i get a nvidia gpu, will this not bring any compatibility probs allong with it (like drivers amd/nvidia)?!
All beceause they where the first one, that came out with "3D Vision"?
Well i maybe had choose an intel setup instead of an amd setup in the firstplace, i wouldn't had this probs know!
It's not that i don't like my amd setup, but it is al little bit complicated & as far as i know there isn't much avaible of amd "3DHD/monitors" on the market... -_-
Well i maybe choose this monitor instead, beceause they don't use the nvidia 3D vision & use there own "3D Cinema" technology, will this be better for me?
Also allote moren cheeper=> "LG D2342P-PN LED (Retail)"
Thnx for helping me out here! 😉
Haydon wrote:
All monitors and televisions that don't specifically use nvidia 3D vision have the same limitations as amd video cards. None can do 1080p60 x2 (3D) for video games. They can only do either interlaced half resolution 1080 (called 1080i) at 60 Hz per eye, 24 or 30 Hz per eye 1080p, or 720p and below at 60 Hz per eye (true 120 Hz).
But yes, you can run games at 720p with your setup at full 120Hz (60 per eye 3D) or 24 Hz per eye 1080p (super low framerate for games).
The monitor you linked as an alternative uses interlacing for 3D. This means you get half-resolution images compared to full resolution images that would be given by the ASUS monitor. That means it's highest resolution for 3D is 1080i120 (1080i60 per eye) which in short means each eye sees a 1920x540 resolution image 60 times per second. The Asus monitor would let you see with each eye a 1920x1080 image 60 times per second assuming you had an nvidia video card.
So i have 3 options
If i want to buy the asus monitor, i als have to buy a new nvidia gpu card (this must be also a good one right?!), just to play @ 1080p & it costs me 700 euro's total!
Why?!, beceause i have one know that costs me 500 euro's, it's just that t isn't nvidia :s!!!
Or i play @ 720 & i just buy the monitor, but i can't get the fully potential of the monitor :s & thene i must connect true an hdmi 1.4 right?!
Or i order the lg & i also play @ 720 & it costs me 200 euro..., also no driver issues!
It's nearly christmas fore the first option or i just wait as 3th option -_-..., witch i don't see as an option :D!
Is there maybe a chance that i can play full hd 3D, whene i connect another gpu & do sli or that they maybe gonna release zome compatible amd drivers?
Beceause i can't see it happen that everyone that wants this monitor & have an amd setup, get some second "nvidia" gpu :S?!
I've found some interesting revieuw about the lg 3D Cinema monitor & depends it is a good montor fore AMD gpus, with HD3D setting, withc is the 3D support from amd!
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=116&t=13125&start=15
