What is considered a good(normal) boot up time for a high end pc? How to improve??

[rusheqart]

I have RIVEBE, 4930K, AX1200i, Dominator Platinum 4x4 1866, Poseidon GTX 780, 3 samsung evo 250gb ssd two of them are in raid 0 the ones the windows are instaled my boot up seems kinda slow around 20 sec??? That kinda seems to be a bit slow for high end system??? Any advice how to improve it? what coud be wrong? Reacently my friend bough the new asus ranger z97 with 8 gb of ram and haswel procesor and his boot up is only around 10-14 sec

[Raja]

pbxcomm wrote:
Interesting....
I've been concerned (and complained) about boot up times with my RIVE.. Seems rather slow (no ridiculously slow), no matter the BIOS settings. I have 2 Samsung pro's each in a dual boot (Server 2012R2 x64 and Windows 8.1 x64), around 12 sec boot up time..

My TYAN S2895, boot up times Windows 7 x64 was 6 sec (half the time with 2010 drivers) and if I really tweaked I'm sure I could shave a bit more off of this.. By the way its (TYAN) 10 years old powered up EVERY day and now my Server still running as it did when new.
I haven't begun to compare the monetary difference between the two (TYAN and RIVE), but its quite substantial.

Anyone out there getting better boot times with the RIVE? If so, how?

My rant...

You'd have to disable controllers and see what it saves if anything.


Our boards have a lot more custom hardware that requires initialization and is utilized to increase OC margins - Tyan's and Supermicro boards are pretty much Intel stock spec. That's the price to pay to have that bleeding edge of the line stability.


BOOTing a board once per day and then using S3 (sleep) would save some time if 6 seconds is hurting that much. Almost a laughable amount of time to rant about to be honest.

[Retired]

whats you shutdown time?

[Retired]

If the friends machines boot a couple of sec faster, its bad considering..

Theirs are faster!!!!!! 😉

[Retired]

many years ago i spoke with a mod from Tweaktown on Skype

Damn the dude was logging on, logging off, all the time, every day

So i asked him what the heck are you doing

> I am having problems getting my Gigabyte board stable

I bet the board of his booted faster than mine did, with a couple of sec.. but mine didnt crash

😉

[darkage]

L.o.l. 🙂

[chrsplmr]

This boggles my mind every time I see it to.
I have yet to see any OC records for fastest boot up,
or increased boot up times resulting in higher fps or
ever read any reviews on the stabilizing effects of faster boots.

And even when benching and rebooting 100 times in an evening
to eek out a point or two, 6 seconds will saves you but a total
of 10 minutes .. one power nap. lol .. if fast counts.

I agree, I put mine to sleep. .c.

[Raja]

Sleep recovery on win 8 is instantaneous. It fits the bill in every way for folks who aren't comfortable in their own skin over boot times.

[Terminal_Meltdo]

Raja@ASUS wrote:
Sleep recovery on win 8 is instantaneous. It fits the bill in every way for folks who aren't comfortable in their own skin over boot times.

So you're saying sleep mode works correctly now with Win7 64bit on a RIVE while overclocked on a 3960x cpu? I seem to recall this feature not working a couple of years ago and I've always just shutdown due to sleep mode not working correctly.

While we're at it, does Wake on Lan work, too? I need to be able to remotely access my system while it's in sleep mode.

[Raja]

Gonna be direct back at ya for this one. Always am when someone opens with "so you're saying" - sorry. Most of all when someone does't list their debugging steps - such posts require a wide set of questions on the "respondant's" part. 🙂


Sleep has always worked for me. So yes that is what I'm saying otherwise why would i even even mention it?


Folks with unstable systems that have sleep issues. Overclocked systems that appear 100% stable, are not necessarily so. Sleep is many times more stressful than most stress tests and many apps. That's something people fail to realize. Your sig states quite a hefty overclock, so my port of call with that system would be getting it back to stock and trying S3 there first.



2 years is a freaky long time to not try a feature. How long would it take you to actually try the feature over coming here to ask? It takes seconds to put the system to sleep and resume it again. If it does not work for you reset your system to stock and see what happens. Still have issues there check out each device one by one and see if any is causing sleep resume failure.

Maybe update UEFI and drivers on your rig? Sig shows an older build.

Sleep works for me here on all the boards I have - from R4E to R4EBE and Z87 - Z97 the way I use them. But then my system is not your system.


WOL not sure - not all Intel NICs support WOL properly or in certain states. Intel has updated the newer NICs to do so. Intel also put out a firmware/driver update for some of their NICs a while ago to fix some S3 issues. :

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=22026


WOL will not work if ErP is active for obvious reasons - as the PSU will cut power to the NIC.

[Terminal_Meltdo]

Raja@ASUS wrote:
Gonna be direct back at ya for this one. Always am when someone opens with "so you're saying" - sorry. Most of all when someone does't list their debugging steps - such posts require a wide set of questions on the "respondant's" part. 🙂


Sleep has always worked for me. So yes that is what I'm saying otherwise why would i even even mention it?


Folks with unstable systems that have sleep issues. Overclocked systems that appear 100% stable, are not necessarily so. Sleep is many times more stressful than most stress tests and many apps. That's something people fail to realize. Your sig states quite a hefty overclock, so my port of call with that system would be getting it back to stock and trying S3 there first.



2 years is a freaky long time to not try a feature. How long would it take you to actually try the feature over coming here to ask? It takes seconds to put the system to sleep and resume it again. If it does not work for you reset your system to stock and see what happens. Still have issues there check out each device one by one and see if any is causing sleep resume failure.

Maybe update UEFI and drivers on your rig? Sig shows an older build.

Sleep works for me here on all the boards I have - from R4E to R4EBE and Z87 - Z97 the way I use them. But then my system is not your system.


WOL not sure - not all Intel NICs support WOL properly or in certain states. Intel has updated the newer NICs to do so. Intel also put out a firmware/driver update for some of their NICs a while ago to fix some S3 issues. :

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=22026


WOL will not work if ErP is active for obvious reasons - as the PSU will cut power to the NIC.

You say sleep works for you on a RIVE, but is your system overclocked or not?

My system is 100% stable @ 4.7 without any crashes ever, no data corruption ever, just as long as I don't use sleep mode while overclocked. It has been 100% rock solid since I've I purchased it new in 2012. My question is, can you guys fix it so sleep mode works properly while overclocked? To me, this sounds like an issue with your bios not being programmed correctly for sleep mode while the cpu is overclocked and it loses it's boundary somewhere and I'm asking you guys to fix it.

ERP has always been disabled. Does the Intel NIC chipset Asus use with RIVE support WOL or not?

BTW, these stats for my PC haven't been updated in a over year. I will update it now.

OLD:
Asus Rampage IV Extreme (bios 3301)
Intel® Management Engine (firmware 8.1.20.1336)
EVGA GTX 680 - PCI-E @ x16 3.0 (driver 310.70)
Intel 3960x revision C2 @ 4.7ghz daily - rock solid