Strange GENE-V offset problem

[Bluntwrapped]

Hi I have been trying to use a negative offset for my 2700k overclock with no success.

LLC set to Ultra High gives around 1.58 under load. Knowing my chip needs less than 1.44v for 5ghz I input -.1 which immediately shows up in red in the BIOS. I can't boot into windows even with -.025 offset.

Sorry if this has been asked before but am I missing something? :s

[Bluntwrapped]

HiVizMan wrote:
I have it planned for the weekend my friend. As soon as I have some results I will post up here.

Thanks again 🙂

[KPRage]

Hey Blunt,

Can you confirm what the VID and, Vcore values are at the auto setting?? Also, if you use + offset, what are the volts you are getting? Please post both these values.

Oh and, please try with - sign and, auto offset.. Please post the results for this too.. 🙂

Cheers,
KP

[Bluntwrapped]

KPRage wrote:
Hey Blunt,

Can you confirm what the VID and, Vcore values are at the auto setting?? Also, if you use + offset, what are the volts you are getting? Please post both these values.

Oh and, please try with - sign and, auto offset.. Please post the results for this too.. 🙂

Cheers,
KP

Hi,

Changing + to - made no difference. Hope these screens help:


- auto with Medium LLC (25%)


- auto with Regular LLC (0%)


Any setting in offset mode greatly overshoots the voltage I need for my stable clock and I've found no way to reduce this.

Works fine if I set the voltage manually though..

[KPRage]

Okay blunt.. Thanks for the screenshots.. Generally the + and, - sign do make a difference. - in fact should reduce the voltage at least by a bit. Well, so, lets try a few things. Can you please do these for me and, post back?

1. For 3.9GHz, everything set to default (you can keep the Ai OC tuner to x.m.p mode), disable pll and, set llc to regular. Use offset Sign to - and, voltage to Auto. Before this, try in manual mode and, check what is the voltage required for keeping it stable for 3.9GHz (please do the same for the below steps too).. Keep your Vcore LLC to regular all the while. Your VRM Power control to Auto.
2. Now, if the volts are high, keep the sign to - and, give a offset voltage value of 0.1V. Reboot. If stable, go back to bios and, increase the voltage value to 0.105. Test again. Keep doing this till you hit the sweet spot. If it fails, decrease the voltage to 0.095V and, try again.. do the same till you reach the sweet spot. Note down this setting.
3. Increase your multiplier to 40. Try booting.. If it boots for the above settings, then very good.. If not, decrease the voltage values till you reach the sweet spot.
4. Increase the multiplier to 41,42,43,44 and, try the above steps till you reach the sweet spot.
5. Now, if you have reached till here, increase the multiplier to 45. This time, if it isn't stable, please increase the LLC to Medium. If this fails, keep it in medium, decrease (if the offset is still -)/ increase (if you had to set offset to + to get till here), the voltage till you hit the sweet spot.
6. Keep increasing the multiplier and, each time, decrease/increase the offset voltages to reach the stable voltage value. Once you hit 48x, instead of increasing the voltages, increase the llc to 50%. Also, if the volts are high, change the current capability to 140%.

This will require a lot of patience, time and, failures to reach the sweet spot. If you have already done the above steps to come till 48 then, keep llc to Regular, change the voltages manually starting from 0.005 and, - sign. If this fails, keep sign as + and, start with 0.005v. Keep increasing till you reach a stable voltage.

Also, hope you have tested all other components before this? If not, please check all your components for stability.

Please post how it goes.

Cheers,
KP

[Bluntwrapped]

KPRage wrote:
Okay blunt.. Thanks for the screenshots.. Generally the + and, - sign do make a difference. - in fact should reduce the voltage at least by a bit. Well, so, lets try a few things. Can you please do these for me and, post back?

1. For 3.9GHz, everything set to default (you can keep the Ai OC tuner to x.m.p mode), disable pll and, set llc to regular. Use offset Sign to - and, voltage to Auto. Before this, try in manual mode and, check what is the voltage required for keeping it stable for 3.9GHz (please do the same for the below steps too).. Keep your Vcore LLC to regular all the while. Your VRM Power control to Auto.
2. Now, if the volts are high, keep the sign to - and, give a offset voltage value of 0.1V. Reboot. If stable, go back to bios and, increase the voltage value to 0.105. Test again. Keep doing this till you hit the sweet spot. If it fails, decrease the voltage to 0.095V and, try again.. do the same till you reach the sweet spot. Note down this setting.
3. Increase your multiplier to 40. Try booting.. If it boots for the above settings, then very good.. If not, decrease the voltage values till you reach the sweet spot.
4. Increase the multiplier to 41,42,43,44 and, try the above steps till you reach the sweet spot.
5. Now, if you have reached till here, increase the multiplier to 45. This time, if it isn't stable, please increase the LLC to Medium. If this fails, keep it in medium, decrease (if the offset is still -)/ increase (if you had to set offset to + to get till here), the voltage till you hit the sweet spot.
6. Keep increasing the multiplier and, each time, decrease/increase the offset voltages to reach the stable voltage value. Once you hit 48x, instead of increasing the voltages, increase the llc to 50%. Also, if the volts are high, change the current capability to 140%.

This will require a lot of patience, time and, failures to reach the sweet spot. If you have already done the above steps to come till 48 then, keep llc to Regular, change the voltages manually starting from 0.005 and, - sign. If this fails, keep sign as + and, start with 0.005v. Keep increasing till you reach a stable voltage.

Also, hope you have tested all other components before this? If not, please check all your components for stability.

Please post how it goes.

Cheers,
KP

Thanks for your time KP 🙂

I've tried the above which brought me to 48x, trouble is as soon as I set this clock speed the motherboard appears to automatically apply +voltage regardless of whether LLC is used or not. The only thing I haven't tried is manually keying the turbo ratio's for each core. I suspect even if I do so I'll end up with the same readings.

I can't use any negative offset without getting BSOD. Have tried -0.005v which should be perfectly stable considering I'm sitting @ 1.544v. It's a no go 😞

+ offset isn't really an option since the voltage is already way higher than I need it to be.

This was so straight forward on my GENE-Z which leads me to believe the BIOS on the GENE-V is at fault 😞 1.370v is where I need it, seems impossible to achieve this voltage without manually keying it as a static voltage.

[glw165]

if u know the manual volts u need, then clear cmos and use+ offset to achieve it, if have use minus offset u need clear cmos to start from low volts

[KPRage]

Ok.. As of now, I am out of suggestions blunt.. Sorry about that.. What I will do though, is try and, see if there are any other tweaks you can do to reduce the voltages.. Till then, we need to wait for HiVizMan to try it out.. 🙂

[Bluntwrapped]

KPRage wrote:
Ok.. As of now, I am out of suggestions blunt.. Sorry about that.. What I will do though, is try and, see if there are any other tweaks you can do to reduce the voltages.. Till then, we need to wait for HiVizMan to try it out.. 🙂

No worries bud, I appreciate you taking time out to try and help with this, and for following the thread too 🙂

If I could increase turbo without simultaneously increasing voltage it would be a massive help. The voltage is linked and bumps up automatically when I key a new turbo (48x as above in the screenshot). With no way to subtract from the overly generous bump.. I can't see any way to get close to 1.370v 😞

[feniks]

yeah, the offset base voltage does grow together with turbo/multiplier and nothing can change that except for offset +/- ... but if negative ones don't work for SB chips then it implies a BIOS programming fault unfortunately ...

OP, have you tried older BIOS like 257 or 704? not sure if this feature was not broken before or it has always been, either way, maybe some BIOS revision work properly? ... other than that, I can only suggest upgrading to IB chip to get it working ... sorry buddy.

[Bluntwrapped]

I have only tested the recent BIOS revisions so far. If I have time this evening I'll try with one of the older revisions and let you know how I get on 🙂

If that fails I'll stick with manual voltage and hope it's fixed soon.