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ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING issues

theprob
Level 7
Hello,

Anyone experienced the following with the mentioned board:

After 6/10 system starts my system don't see the LAN adapter or my mouse at all. I need to restart the system or replug my mouse to solve the issue. I've experienced the mouse connection issue within UEFI too. Furthermore I experiencing further annoying problems, such as random video signal loose (especially when I start a fan calibration within AISuite 3). After that, I can only revive my system with a hardreset.

I tried to reinstall windows/nvidia driver/chipset driver, etc. And of course, I have the latest BIOS version.

Now, I sent back the board to the vendor, because ASUS Support advised that. They will revise it. I hope soo, that they won't evalute that it's just a SW related issue...
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SuperRichioROG wrote:
Latest AMD chipset driver incorporates a workaround for the destiny 2 problem, which I can confirm now works fine on my system.

I know it works, but they said it's just a temporary workaround.


After BIOS update latest AMD Balanced power plan starts to reduce voltage to 0.9V even with 99% minimum CPU power state for me.

NecroMan wrote:
I know it works, but they said it's just a temporary workaround.

Indeed.


After BIOS update latest AMD Balanced power plan starts to reduce voltage to 0.9V even with 99% minimum CPU power state for me.

oh cool, good to hear. I may flash the bios then, I wasn't really in any rush as I'm running stable with 5008 and latest chipset driver.

I have a 3600 and with 5204 if I leave everything on Auto and PBO and Core Performance Boost enabled, I get an all core boost voltage of 1.42 and on light loads it even reaches 1.48v. Even if I apply a -100mv offset the all core boost still runs at 1.37v, and applying anymore negative offset makes my system crash. I learned that the maximum safe all-core boost should only be 1.325v, but there's no way I can achieve that.

For Zen 2 owners of B350 - What are your all core voltages and how did you achieve it?

mj_dijamco wrote:
I have a 3600 and with 5204 if I leave everything on Auto and PBO and Core Performance Boost enabled, I get an all core boost voltage of 1.42 and on light loads it even reaches 1.48v. Even if I apply a -100mv offset the all core boost still runs at 1.37v, and applying anymore negative offset makes my system crash. I learned that the maximum safe all-core boost should only be 1.325v, but there's no way I can achieve that.

For Zen 2 owners of B350 - What are your all core voltages and how did you achieve it?


I'm currently running R 5 3600 on B350-F Bios 5008, everything on default values in the bios other than my ram DOCP/XMP profile. Individual core voltages vary between around 0.918 - 1.417. When I started running the latest chipset driver with my current bios my 3600 was always boosting to around 4.1-4.2ghz and pulling in around 1.38-1.41v. All I had to do to lower this was change the minimum CPU state in the Ryzen balanced power plan to 0%. This had no effect at all to 3D Mark benchmark results and I have much better idle temps/voltages now.

I think it's pretty well known now that offsets are not only not necessary, they in fact negatively effect performance and/or stability. Take a look here for recent updates from AMD: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/07

Also this could be useful from gamers nexus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JscRwIH3OAY&t=564s

SuperRichioROG wrote:
my 3600 was always boosting to around 4.1-4.2ghz and pulling in around 1.38-1.41v.


Are those all core boost numbers? Because again, on the linked reddit post it says that the max voltage for all core boost is just around 1.325. And discussion around electromigration scares me as it is a gradual degradation of the cpu and might die earlier than expected. With such high voltage, sure it might be running well right now but will it run the same a year from now?

Here's the reddit post again: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cahr5r/max_safe_all_core_voltage_for_zen_2_is_1325v/

mj_dijamco wrote:
Are those all core boost numbers? Because again, on the linked reddit post it says that the max voltage for all core boost is just around 1.325. And discussion around electromigration scares me as it is a gradual degradation of the cpu and might die earlier than expected. With such high voltage, sure it might be running well right now but will it run the same a year from now?

Here's the reddit post again: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cahr5r/max_safe_all_core_voltage_for_zen_2_is_1325v/


Sorry those were all CPU core voltage numbers under normal load. As I say I run everything stock, not pushing for any overclocks etc just to be clear.
That said I just ran a stress test in CPUZ whilst watching voltages for each core in HWMonitor and voltage for individual cores were pulling up to 1.4v then stabilised at around 1.331v across all cores after a few seconds. HWMonitor is one of the monitoring tools that seems to cause cores to wake from sleep state and boost unnecessarily however so I'm not sure how useful those numbers are.

There's a lot of misinformation still floating around regarding the 3000 series as I'm sure you've seen, from people panicking over normal boost behaviours/temps to people setting undervolts causing stability issues or 'unexplained' loss of performance. It's been really frustrating as an early adopter but thankfully Robert Hallock (AMD Robert on Reddit) has been engaging with and updating the community quite regularly. The only information I stake my system on at this point is from AMD themselves...at the end of the day they're the guys who'll be replacing the CPU if there's any issues! 😄

maikrosoft
Level 7
ASROCK says with ABB Ryzen 1xxx is no longer supportet. Let us see what ASUS do 😄

maikrosoft wrote:
ASROCK says with ABB Ryzen 1xxx is no longer supportet. Let us see what ASUS do 😄


https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS

"ASRock do NOT recommend updating this BIOS if Pinnacle, Raven or Summit Ridge CPU is being used on your system."

Definitely something to be aware of. The Asus release note makes no such comment though.

nooice! now i can run my memory cl14@3200mhz, thx for the update asus :))
but i do get lower preformence on userbenchmark then i did with my ryzen 1200 (memory wise)

Weird, after Bios update the CPU speed is 3.59GHz instead of 3.6 and ram 15.9GB instead of 16GB in Windows 10.

Also Cinebench20 score went down from 3655 to 3515.

I have Ryzen 5 3600.