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Rip 3930k?

Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
Weird day here.....my rig has been BSODing every 5 to 10 minutes all day......loads of codes a bit of everything from 09C to 101 the whole range...

My question is, to those of you who have had CPUs die...do they die slowly and like this?

I have replaced RAM replaced PSU fresh installed on two different SSDs swapped out GPUs disconnected everything but mouse and keyboard......flashed BIOS changed BIOS chip.

So I am left with RIVE or CPU. RIVE is a couple of months old.....

Any other posibilities?
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Arne Saknussemm wrote:
Well the funny thing is the GBE stuff enabled itself twice on 4102 after the crash.....it's not something I did or that has ever shown up before.....weird!!


That shows corrupt NVRAM area..clearing CMOS fixes that.
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Slide the cliff?

mine is like the drummer in rolling stones..

nleksan
Level 10
Hmm... I hope I come bearing a fix... 🙂

I had issues with 0x0101 BSOD's for a LONG time, very intermittently (like, five in one day, then maybe one over the next three months...), for years across numerous computers. I believe I literally pulled some hair out over that, because one of them happened right before I could hit "Save" on a screenshot of an at-the-time 1st Place @ the 'bot benchmark run (:mad:).

I figured that with my current X79 rig, I was sparing no expense on component quality, so there should be no issue, although it's not like my Gigabyte Z77X-UP7 + 2x MSI 680 Lightning's + 3770K + 8GB Trident X 2666 10-12-12 liquid cooled benching rig is something I cheaped out on either 😛

Still, I went with a PSU that I KNOW to be one of the most stable, consistent, insanely underrated units available, the NZXT HALE90, and it paid off as I borrowed a 'scope from work and have yet to see any of the three major "rails" exceed 21.1mV of ripple!
As an extra little precaution, and because they saved me, well, very high five figures' worth of professional audio recording/editing equipment and home theater equipment, I am EXTREMELY adamant about using Tripp Lite ISOBar Ultra's ANYWHERE in between a wall and something being plugged in. (About 16mo ago, lightning struck the power box in the front yard, which feeds ~8 neighbors and myself; not a single piece of equipment plugged into the Tripp Lite ISOBar Ultra's was lost or even damaged, and of the 9 different units, only 2 of them were even killed! Every other "surge suppressor" in the house, quite literally, exploded and/or burst into flames, taking about $25K with them).

The ISOBar Ultra's are expensive for surge suppressors, but they're the kind of thing that once you pick it up you're like "Oh, now that's a MAN'S surge suppressor" because it's solid enough to double as some type of home defense armament.
However, it's not the surge suppression that even really comes into play here... It's the fact that these units also regulate voltage and function as "line conditioners", AND every two outlets are on completely isolated banks, each with its own dedicated line filtration knocking out anywhere from -50 to -100dBm EMI/RFI interference.

Measuring voltage at the wall, I get about ~5-8v fluctuation over the course of a minute. Measuring from any of the outlets on the ISOBar Ultra's and I have to switch to be able to read thousands of a volt, because it stays rock solid with no more movement than ~0.008v at the most!


The reason I bring all of this up, is that almost everyone has "dirty power". Computer PSU's CAN and DO filter this power to make it nice and clean and sparkly and wonderful, but eventually PSU's, just like people, get old, crotchety, and cease to function well. If you really want to be anal about it, like me, you can use a cheap "power strip surge thingy" plugged directly into the wall (basically, if it doesn't weigh like ~5lbs or more, it uses Metal Oxide Varisters or "MOV's", which are sacrificial and lose a bit of their ability to *cough* "Protect" *cough* each time the voltage spikes or sags), and then have an ISOBar4Ultra (or ISOBar6Ultra or 8Ultra, however many outlets you need) plugged into that which helps keep the capacitors and ferrite cores and all the other happy do-dads inside from becoming old and worn out like the MOV's. Then, plug whatever you want to treat to some awesomely stable power directly into the ISOBar Ultra! 🙂


This is when "Ripple" becomes a big problem, and I have personally worked on a half dozen computers belonging to friends who were sure their CPU's were degrading, only for the issue to be completely fixed with a new (usually MUCH higher quality) PSU.
The reason for this causing x101 errors is that, during a CPU Clock Cycle, of which there are BILLIONS per second, it's quite possible that in a very short period of time (assuming you have some ripple) that the peak of the cycle wave will occur when the power is slightly lagging, thus causing a clock interrupt.
The reason that this can be "fixed" with more vCore is because you're simply putting the ripple limit over the necessary amount of voltage for each clock cycle to complete, but as a result you're running more voltage than necessary, and if I'm right, it's NOT stable voltage. So, even though going into the BIOS and clicking "UP" on vCore a few times seems like an easy fix, outta sight outta mind and all that, in reality it's just hiding the problem and setting things up so that it will actually have to become significantly worse before you would notice it again.... Yet all the while it is causing slow degradation of capacitors and other electronic parts.


Here's my awesome illustration:

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Excellent post nleksan.
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Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
Hey nleksan....nice post. Not sure it's my problem...have tried 2 PSUs and tried both those running another system ....but I don't discount the board totally yet...maybe its power delivery has a problem in line with what you say here....

Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
Talking of excellent post......not!

I sent off my CPU earlier this week and have a call from the courier today saying that that same day my parcel was robbed from a van in some backwater town in Northern Spain!

So tragedy evolves to farce. Most likely I get a new CPU and I'll never know what happened to the other :(. Makes troubleshooting a challenge.
*sigh*

And entering the summer sizzler is going to be hard....but certain members of the forum have sent me a 3930K to try in my board since I needed to eliminate one or the other as the cause of my troubles....for which I am humbly grateful! Thanks HiVizman!!

to be continued.....

Detleg
Level 12
wow talking about bad luck..sorry Arne that's messed up:mad:

HiVizMan
Level 40
LOL Arne talk about easy RMA.

CPU was posted off this morning. And the funny thing on my side is that it costs the same to send that CPU to you in Spain, as it does to send a CPU to Lancashire from Sussex.
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Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
:confused: world gets crazier.....

They have just confirmed they are going to replace my CPU I have given them the details and my original supplier and they are going to order one for me....

It's a race between HiViz's CPU from UK and one from the courier company...ordering in Spain....who will win? Should open a book 😉

HiVizMan
Level 40
What odds you giving mate?

Take a £5,er that RM gets there first.
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