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Probe II going insane with voltage alerts C5FV

Esmea
Level 7
So yeah, I've been using Win10 lately, and can achieve impressive stability on it, but no hope on installing AISuite.
Despite that, any time I'm on 8.1, my Probe II is going insane at voltage irregularities.

My question to the collective opinion is: Does this look more like a failing C5FZ or is my Antec PSU kicking itself? (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's the PSU... this is the last time I buy Antec.)

[03/28/2015 at 05:21 pm] +5V 0.021 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 05:21 pm] +5V 5.100 Normal
[03/28/2015 at 07:59 pm] CPU/NB 0.000 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 07:59 pm] DRAM 0.000 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 07:59 pm] HT 0.000 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 07:59 pm] NB 0.000 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 07:59 pm] SB 0.000 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 08:18 pm] +5V 0.750 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 08:18 pm] +5V 5.100 Normal
[03/28/2015 at 08:22 pm] +12V 6.589 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 08:22 pm] +12V 12.046 Normal
[03/28/2015 at 08:52 pm] CPU/NB 0.060 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 08:52 pm] NB 0.081 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 08:52 pm] CPU/NB 1.237 Normal
[03/28/2015 at 08:52 pm] NB 1.105 Normal
[03/28/2015 at 11:42 pm] MB -18.0 Abnormal
[03/28/2015 at 11:42 pm] MB 38.0 Normal
[03/29/2015 at 12:07 am] +12V 6.589 Abnormal
[03/29/2015 at 12:07 am] +12V 11.994 Normal
[03/30/2015 at 10:51 pm] +3.3V 2.928 Abnormal
[03/30/2015 at 10:51 pm] +3.3V 3.336 Normal
[03/30/2015 at 11:55 pm] +VDDA 0.036 Abnormal
[03/30/2015 at 11:55 pm] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/30/2015 at 11:58 pm] +VDDA 3.060 Abnormal
[03/30/2015 at 11:58 pm] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 12:00 am] +5V 0.064 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 12:00 am] +5V 5.121 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 12:01 am] +VDDA 2.808 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 12:01 am] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 12:03 am] +VDDA 0.660 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 12:03 am] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 12:18 am] +VDDA 0.000 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 12:18 am] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 12:25 am] +VDDA 1.668 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 12:25 am] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 12:48 am] MB -46.0 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 12:48 am] MB 37.0 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 01:08 am] +VDDA 0.456 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 01:08 am] +VDDA 2.520 Normal
[03/31/2015 at 01:09 am] +12V 6.589 Abnormal
[03/31/2015 at 01:09 am] +12V 12.046 Normal


This has been a problem for quite a few months, but only over the last few days has it increased frequency to every few minutes.
I recently had a bad crash that took out both of my OS partitions, I panicked and defaulted BIOS and reconfigured it to make sure.
This ended up being a weekend job; because stability is hit or miss right now. Prime95 tested with flying colors. RealBench stability passed. Luxmark crashes on benchmark mode, though.

I keep getting intermittent hangs in my system for about 1-3sec and not during times that Probe II alerts pop up. Quite annoying while listening to something or playing a game.

FX-9370
Crosshair V Formula-Z
-Rev 1.xx BIOS 2101
32GB AMD RG2133 CL10 (10-11-11-30 XMP/AMP profile 2132)
ASUS R9 290X DC2OC
256GB Samsung 840 PRO
4TB WD Black
Antec TP-750 Blue (yeah, it's old)
Corsair H80i (it was free...why not?)

of note: I haven't overclocked ever since I caused a power cord to spontaneously combust and melted a Celeron 300 in '99. I do miss those jumper-set clocks, though 😛 Don't get me wrong, I loved every second of it, but it's been financially prohibiting. I *was* tempted to buy a Prometheus phase-change system in '04 and get back into it.

BIOS right now: defaulted with RAM set to XMP profile.
It didn't matter if I manually set everything, or used ExtremeOC profile, or whatever, the problem persists.
I honestly wonder why it took me until tonight to suspect the PSU or motherboard. I'd cross-check them, all my spare components are either dead or outdated. If Mobo, I'll RMA it; if PSU, I'm springing for a SeaSonic SS-1050XP3... maybe a new case, as well, and cooler.
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chris635
Level 7
Uninstall AI suite. It causes more problems than it's worth. I got wild voltage warnings with it, some even stating 0 volts. I uninstalled a long time ago and never looked back. Check to to see if you still have stability problems after you uninstall AI suite. You could still possibly have a PSU problem though.
Chris...Have a nice day.

My Crosshair V Formula Z has done the same thing since day 1 of owning it. I had started on a Thermaltake 750 SmartM but am now using a EVGA 1300G2. Same thing.
I also get intermittent pauses and lockups with AI Suite running. HWMonitor however, shows NO voltage problems whatsoever, and completely contradicts what AI Suite Probe is saying.

As suggested, I don't use AI Suite anymore, it's not very useful anyway. Now, no more problems with it gone. I think that Corsair Link, HWMonitor and other software which tries to read the system, all interfere with AI SUite, or likely visa/versa.

If keeping tabs on your voltage is important, just use HWMonitor. I have found it to be incredibly reliable without causing any issues.

chris635
Level 7
I have used HWMonitor,it is good, HWinfo64 (this is the better than HWMonitor IMO) and now I use AIDA64.
Chris...Have a nice day.

I will check them BOTH out! Thanks for that 🙂

chris635
Level 7
AIDA64 is not free. You do have a trial period though. I think its for thirty days. Go with Hwinfo64 for best free option.
Chris...Have a nice day.

Esmea
Level 7
Thank you for the suggestion.
I haven't used HWMonitor in many years. I had entirely forgotten about how it looks.
Considering that I have had it running for nearly two hours now in Win10 without any chances in my voltage makes me suspect AI Suite is the culprit.

This incident over the weekend has me seriously reconsidering my stance on recycling a case/PSU between builds. (I usually replace those every other build) With that, I'm probably going to go ahead and replace the PSU anyways. I must've brainfarted when I bought the Antec, because I know I don't settle for less than 80+gold, and this thing is a bronze >.<.

Esmea
Level 7
(I'm using SWAG[scientific wild-ass guess] for this, so if my math is off, it wasn't intended to be perfect)

Found out what the exact problem is.
While my 750W PSU was good when I bought it in 2009, it isn't anymore. PSUs degrade over time; especially with a higher load. While I was pulling maybe 400W from it for 4-5 years, it degraded rather normally... losing maybe 5-10% potential. So fast forward to 2013/2014: my PSU is no longer 750W output. It never was, actually. The PSU was 80+ Bronze rated, which means it had an efficiency around 82-85%. This translates to 750W total minus 15-18% lost to heat. (Edit: *This math is completely wrong... the efficiency relates to how much power is drawn from the main input, not the output numbers*) 615-640W minus 10% degradation over time = 553-576W. Then I put in a CPU that takes 220W and a GPU that is sucking 300W. I'm close to maxing it out without taking for factor everything else like the motherboard, hard drives, etc.
This means that my PSU was working close to maximum capacity this past year. The Capacitors have degraded faster because of this, resulting in a power output that is less than the demand. Without enough power, my computer is having 'hiccups'. This is why I needed a 1050W power supply... this is why I needed an 80+ platinum PSU (92%+ efficiency). This isn't even factoring the wear and tear that using a smaller case had on it (less room=more heat=faster degredation)

So yes, the fact that I never had issues like this before while running the two programs did, in fact, point to a PSU failure... Probe II did its job for once. Even if it was just a fluke, it still turned my attention towards the culprit.

chris635
Level 7
Glad to hear you got it sorted out and probe II did it's job for you.
Chris...Have a nice day.

Esmea
Level 7
Sorry to necro this, but the problem has resurfaced despite that I have replaced the PSU with a SeaSonic 1050W.
The problem is becoming more and more annoying. I haven't used AISuiteII in a long while. Now the GPU driver is crashing(and recovering) every 2-5min, regardless of driver version.

I've reformatted my primary storage drive at least 7 times since the problem started. Managing the process more meticulously with each iteration.

My GPU (ASUS R9 290X) has been RMAed twice (first was because of total system freeze during firmware update, second was because of this problem), both times it was replaced with a new unit. The problem also began to appear on my HD5870 during the second RMA.

I've ran Samsung Magician to benchmark my drives and noticed inconsistent results on my 840 PRO: Sequential testing is fantastic, but random IOPS were 50-70% nominal values (at one point, the random read reached 90% nominal). Tested during an OS reformat between each driver install - after AMD Chipset driver but before AMD GPU driver provided the best results.

I have tested each individual DIMM of my RAM, with each one testing fine. I also tested in pairs in the A2&B2 DIMM slots (as per manual recommendation)

I'm extensively testing each LBA on all storage drives right now. I'm in contact with Samsung already in regards to potential replacement needs on the SSD, though I would rather rule out any other possible culprits.

I have yet to isolate the motherboard or CPU in testing. I don't own any additional motherboards to test the CPU (FX-9370) on, so that will have to be a test of absence (using a spare Phenom II 945).

Has anyone else encountered 1-3sec hangs sometimes accompanied by GPU driver crashes? Any suggestions? or do you feel that my process will lead to a definitive conclusion?
Thank you.