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Need help with a few bios settings

tag446
Level 7
Hello everyone, I was checking a few of the bios settings in my CHFVZ and wondered what the best settings would be for running my fx-8350 stock with turbo core enabled.

These are my current settings:
Ai Overclock Tuner - Manual
CPU Level Up - Cancel
CPU Ratio - Auto
AMD Turbo Core technology - Auto
CPU Bus Frequency - 200
PCIE Frequency - Auto
Memory Frequency - DDR3-1866MHz
CPU/NB Frequency - Auto (MB reports current speed at 2200MHz)
HT Link Speed - Auto (MB reports current speed at 2200MHz)

Aside from the ai overclock tuner and memory frequency all the settings above are defaults and my computer runs good but I wasn't sure if these settings are optimal or not. I am especially curious about the HT Link Speed setting because the bios reports the current HT Link Speed @ 2200MHz but I read somewhere HT Link Speed for the FX-8350 is 2600MHz.

So basically what I need to know is should any of these settings be changed and if so to what. Concerning the HT Link Speed is the bios reporting it @2200MHz because it is set to Auto and being throttled down? Should I manually set it to 2600MHz or leave it as is?

Thanks in advance:)
AMD Fx-8350 @ 4ghz - Corsair H100i - Asus CHFV-Z / Bios 1601 - G.SKILL 2x4gb 1866mhz F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR - Samsung 840 Pro 256gb - WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B0 - WDC WD64 02AAEX-00Z3A0 - Sapphire HD7950 (100352-3L) - XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W - (2)Samsung CDDVDW SH-S223L SATA - Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard - Steelseries Zboard USB - Logitech G700s - XCLIO Blackhawk Extreme Cooling Case - Samsung SyncMaster XL2370 @ 1080p - Logitech G930 - Logitech Z680 5.1 DTS - Windows 7 x64 Pro
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sectionate
Level 12
no one can tell you "best" settings for your machine. The same two parts never act the same is what I'm saying. List your complete specs plz
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Poco_OM
Level 10
Hello Tag

To start with most of the settings you highlight will require other adjustments to successfully change their values, so it is unlikely that you will simply just selected higher frequencies without stabilizing them with other settings.

For sake of explanation, the only thing manually set in your settings is your memory and that may even be able to work under a better profile than the one currently used. Selecting the XMP profile in DOCP will set the timings to manufactures specifications including voltages. This should give you a slight improvement as the DDR 1866mhz you have selected is a broader profile than the XMP.

Overclocking your HyperTransport (HT) will more than likely require the altering of voltages to the CPU/NB and NB + HT voltages may require adjusting to stabilize.
Will doing as such speed up my system?
It most likely will up until a point and where that point is will be dependent on your own CPU and its architecture, as well as your ability to stabilize the over clock.
Changing the HT can reap rewards but inevitably it has a failure point that any rewards would be diminished or eradicated completely. Where that is on your particular CPU no one can say without spending many hours with your CPU.

If you are looking to overclock your system you will probably be best of starting with some of the tutorials on this site, or that can be gathered from Google. This tinkering will allow you a better understanding of what does what, and how it effects the overall system. These start at more basic levels where minimal changes should be required to achieve said overclock. This is normally using the CPU multiplier and a little more Vcore voltage. These overclock tends to be easier to stabilize than messing with the HT, not as much fun though.

Hi, thanks for the replies.

Specs should be in my sig now.

Please forgive me for my newbieness, I didn't realize the answer would be so loaded lol.

I'm not looking to overclock really, just making sure my settings are optimal for running at stock speeds. I would like it to run stock but have the turbo core ramp up as needed and at the same time be as power efficient as possible.

Concerning the memory, 1866Mhz is the stock speed for my ram and I have adjusted other settings for the ram not just the settings I listed in the original post so I assume I am good as far as memory settings go.

As I mentioned in my first post I would also like to know more about the HT link speed. When I first open my bios in yellow it says the current speed of the HT is 2200MHz. The current bios setting for HT Link Speed is set to Auto. I have read that the FX-8350 stock HT Link Speed is 2600MHz so why is the bios reporting it at 2200MHz? Am I seeing the current speed at 2200MHz because I am in an idle state while in the bios and HT Link Speed is set to Auto? Should it ramp up to 2600MHz if needed under load or do I need to manually set it to 2600Mhz to get the stock speed?

Hope this helps clarify what I'm trying to do.
AMD Fx-8350 @ 4ghz - Corsair H100i - Asus CHFV-Z / Bios 1601 - G.SKILL 2x4gb 1866mhz F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR - Samsung 840 Pro 256gb - WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B0 - WDC WD64 02AAEX-00Z3A0 - Sapphire HD7950 (100352-3L) - XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W - (2)Samsung CDDVDW SH-S223L SATA - Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard - Steelseries Zboard USB - Logitech G700s - XCLIO Blackhawk Extreme Cooling Case - Samsung SyncMaster XL2370 @ 1080p - Logitech G930 - Logitech Z680 5.1 DTS - Windows 7 x64 Pro

HiVizMan
Level 40
Would be interested in seeing a CPUz screen shot, show the first screen and the memory tab please.
To help us help you - please provide as much information about your system and the problem as possible.

HiVizMan wrote:
Would be interested in seeing a CPUz screen shot, show the first screen and the memory tab please.

Yes, this.
Please open two, if you don't mind. Cpu and Memory.

You can download it here if you don't already have it: http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.67-setup-en.exe

tag446
Level 7
Hi HiVizMan, here the 2 screenshots you requested

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AMD Fx-8350 @ 4ghz - Corsair H100i - Asus CHFV-Z / Bios 1601 - G.SKILL 2x4gb 1866mhz F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR - Samsung 840 Pro 256gb - WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B0 - WDC WD64 02AAEX-00Z3A0 - Sapphire HD7950 (100352-3L) - XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W - (2)Samsung CDDVDW SH-S223L SATA - Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard - Steelseries Zboard USB - Logitech G700s - XCLIO Blackhawk Extreme Cooling Case - Samsung SyncMaster XL2370 @ 1080p - Logitech G930 - Logitech Z680 5.1 DTS - Windows 7 x64 Pro

chrsplmr
Level 18
WOW .. As a guess you have a pretty good cpu there. 4.1ghz @ 1.164v ... yum.

Next, you might want to download RealBench v2 < here on the forum and see how you do.
This will tell you if your rig is running stable [which I have little doubt that it is not.]
Looks like you have all kinds of 'room' to get your tweak on.

Don't know if you have, but may I suggest you read through this Guide:
http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crossha...
Then read these comments on The Thread this linked from, from some of the best:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?30417-Overclocking-FX-8350-4-8ghz-Crosshair-V-Formula-z&cou...

There are many ways to go at this and it is best to make yourself as familiar with the board
as possible first and those that have 'beat' on it the hardest. [Flank3R .. as an example.]

Another interesting read is RealBench V1 and see what others did to receive the results they
did as a reference : http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?36600-ROG-RealBench-v1-Leaderboard&country=&status=
And then, the last Challenge here, some awesome info for comparison: 2 teams in particular.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?38169-Team-Young&country=&status=
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?38106-Carolina-s-Clockers&country=&status=


Nice job. Great Avatar.
Pardon my manners. Welcome to ROG.
.c.

chrsplmr wrote:
WOW .. As a guess you have a pretty good cpu there. 4.1ghz @ 1.164v ... yum.

Next, you might want to download RealBench v2 < here on the forum and see how you do.
This will tell you if your rig is running stable [which I have little doubt that it is not.]
Looks like you have all kinds of 'room' to get your tweak on.

Don't know if you have, but may I suggest you read through this Guide:
http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crossha...
Then read these comments on The Thread this linked from, from some of the best:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?30417-Overclocking-FX-8350-4-8ghz-Crosshair-V-Formula-z&cou...

There are many ways to go at this and it is best to make yourself as familiar with the board
as possible first and those that have 'beat' on it the hardest. [Flank3R .. as an example.]
Another interesting read is RealBench V1 and see what others did to receive the results they
did as a reference : http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?36600-ROG-RealBench-v1-Leaderboard&country=&status=
And then, the last Challenge here, some awesome info for comparison: 2 teams in particular.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?38169-Team-Young&country=&status=
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?38106-Carolina-s-Clockers&country=&status=


Nice job. Great Avatar.
Pardon my manners. Welcome to ROG.
.c.


so, low vcore paired with stock speed configuration is an indication of superior grade CPU?
how does that work?

i have some idea of myself, but not sure if it's correct. does that mean it allows for more room of multiplier increase because you can raise the vcore all the way up to 1.4v (or maybe more) to achieve even greater clock speed?

and: how does AMD determine the base clock vcore anyway?
no siggy, saw stuff that made me sad.

chrsplmr
Level 18
Your questions are beyond my skill set my friend, especially as to AMD logic.
But, yes .. to me, imho, reaching 4.1 with such little voltage, that's exactly what I think.
and yes if you read through the guides I suggest you will see that others 'juiced' it way above 1.164.
I don't know about the multiplier room .. but I do know that reaching memory clocks for 1866 with bus @ 233/234
puts the ratio @ 1:4 and then that 20 multiplier .. well you will be clocking well above 4.1.

No two AMD cpu's / memories limits or limitations can be determined without trial and
error. Each and each combination is unique in itself. That is why I suggested the reading
for reference, not an exacting how to. Learning as they say is 'funDaMental' .. and there is
lots to learn before we suppose.

Like I suggest .. read through the guides .. tons of effort in there with exactly the hardware in front of you.
and the others will 'chime' in as you go.
btw. The first thing I did when OC'n was to turn Off turbo. .c.