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tbfleming
Level 7
I tapped a key to wake Windows 8 from sleep mode yesterday. It came up then immediately cut power. I haven't been able to get it to come up since.


  • ASUS Maximus VI Formula
  • ASUS GTX 770 DirectCU II OC (2 of these)
  • i7-4770K @ 3.9 MHz
  • G.Skill Ripjaws F3-1600C9Q-32GXM
  • Power: Seasonic X-1250
  • CPU fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO


Behavior with minimal hardware. I removed all hardware except power, fans, CPU, and RAM, and tried to use the built-in video:

  • Powers on, stops with code 79, no video. vga_led is on.
  • After a few seconds powers itself off then back on
  • Stops with code b2. No video signal. vga_led is on.
  • Sometimes, after a couple minutes, it cycles power off then on then repeats starting from the first step


Behavior with 1 GTX card plugged in:

  • Powers on, stops with code 79, no video. vga_led is on.
  • After a few seconds powers itself off then back on
  • Powers on, stops with code 79, no video. vga_led is on. (same as first time)
  • After a few seconds powers itself off then back on
  • Stops with code 9c. boot_device_led is on. Onscreen says to press DEL or F2 to enter BIOS, but keyboard is dead. I've tried with 2 different keyboards and tried all 4 USB 2.0 jacks in the back.
  • Sometimes, after a couple minutes, it cycles power off then on then repeats starting from the first step


I reflashed the BIOS, cleared CMOS, tried memOK, and reseated the CPU. None of these helped. I tested both keyboards with another machine; they're OK.

Since both USB and onboard video are dead my guess is either the MB or the CPU went bad. I don't have any other haswell systems to swap components with to test.
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Yes

Chino wrote:
Disconnect the 8 pin and 4 pin power cable leaving just the 24 pin power cable connected. Press the Start button. Did the fan for the stock heatsink spin up?

Chino wrote:
Disconnect the 8 pin and 4 pin power cable leaving just the 24 pin power cable connected. Press the Start button. Did the fan for the stock heatsink spin up?


What if it doesn't?

I was discussing my issues in another thread and I started to work on the RMA process. But I'm still healthily skeptical that if it really is the MOBO and I found this thread. I took the cables in quote out and pressed start to and the CPU fans would not spin, they wouldn't either with them on. I would like to see if this is helpful in diagnosing before I send my mobo out for rma.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33815-Debug-Code-00/page9
Media | Logitech C615 HD WebCam
PSU | OCZ ZX Series 1000W Fully-Modular
MOBO | ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA ROG Armor
CPU Cooler | ZALMAN CNPS12X
Storage | Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB-7
CPU | Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz
RAM | Mushkin Enhanced Redline 32GB (4 x 8GB)
GPU | EVGA GTX 780 Classified

Hi,

This may not be your issue, but it is my issue.

My M6F did about the same thing. It recorded some stuff in Media Center off a ethernet-attached tuner, I watched it, it worked fine. I went down stairs for a victory snack and when I came back it looked like the machine had gone to sleep. The ROG logo pulsed and everthing. So I pushed the power....nothing except a "tick" from my AX1200i. I tried a few other things, removed molex-attached fans and etc...didn't help. Removed all cables except the 24 and 6 pin ATX, and nothing. When I plug in the power, the start light and reset *may* light. Pressing Start makes the "tick" from the PS. I purchased the smallest ATX v2 PS above 350 W (as stated in the manual as supported) and tried the 2 ATX power cables. No luck...just the same flashing ROG (mocking me!) and a Start or Reset that sometimes is less bright or reluctant to start. The CPU fan spins occasionally, but usually not. I checked it separately with 12V and it spins. But it still could be the PWM or RPM is not working.

Removing all memory (Muskin Redline 2400MHz - 32GB) gives the same result. Using different sticks in the A2 slot doesn't help. I thought of getting another 4770K or maybe a cheaper one...but didn't want to get stuck...yet.

I took off the plastic armor to try to see if I could see if some piece of wire or something got stuck in there. I went through a whole can of compressed air and found nothing on top or underneath. I removed the battery for 10 min and discharged the Start and still nothing. Then I noticed something. Before removing the armor I noticed it being a bit warm near the bottom PCIe slot...but now that the armor was off, I noticed between the PU300 IC and the capacitor next to it, these two devices are HOT too hot to touch for more than 2 seconds with only the pre-start power enabled.

It may look like there's a small crack between these devices. At least it seems like it on the top set of traces (this is a multi-trace board with overlapping conductive traces going to components). I've made a case for Asus to check out. But, of course, making a case is a pain. I can't update the one I made last night, and I can't add a picture because the upload says "not allow". I will attach the image here.
27511 I noted the hot components and the "crack". The reason I say that's a crack is it's not "under" the green overlayment, it's not a hair, and it's not straight, as I'd expect a copper trace to be.

The IC in question is above the lowest, red PCIe connector (when the board is mounted in it's standard, as seen in the manual, orientation) It looks like a 3-pin voltage regulator. The crack (or scratch?) seems to run right exactly up to the small heatsink soldered to the board. The IC itself has the following markings: GS1185LD. According to gs-power.com, this component is an adjustable TO-252 packaged, 3-terminal voltage regulator, capable of up to 5A of regulated output.

If this IC is getting that hot before even the main power sequence begins, it has to be drawing close to 3 or 4 A of current...there has to be something wrong with the board, I will attempt to RMA it as soon as I can. I'll let you know what happens.

Regards,

-Ambi

P.S. If I remove all memory and the CPU, what would a "good" MB do? The only post codes I ever see are occasionally a "00" but that's not documented at all in the manual. Is there a check to do with a new board without inserting memory or CPU?
MB: Maximus VIII Hero
CPU:Intel i7-6700K OC @ 4.7 GHz
Mem: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3600 MHz
Vid: EVGA GTX980 Ti SC@ 1530MHz
SSD:RAID1&0 Samsung 256G 840 Pro

HDD: RAID1 6TB Ultrastar 7K6000
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Case:Corsair 600T, mod for roof rad

Custom Loop:
Block:EK Supremacy Clean CSQ, Copper
Rads:AlphaCool ST30 360 & 120
Fans: 4 X Enermax CLUSTER Advance, Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm, KingWin DB122
Pumps:2 X MCP 35x in series
Tubing:Tygon 2475 1/2" ID X 3/4" OD

Hi,

An update: There doesn't seem to be a crack in the board. Either what I saw was a hair or an anomaly in the photo. But checking my AX1200i power supply, I see that the 5V Standby rail can only produce about 21W max. The case temp of the regulator at 21W, limited by the maximum junction temp of the device, is about 80 °C. Once plugged in and turned on, I can only touch it for 3 seconds. This can't be normal for standby power!

So to summarize, MB went into standby, started using 20+W of standby power, and is stuck there. Even when there's no memory or CPU installed, the MB still is doing this. The CPU and memory are verified as being OK. I removed the CPU and replaced it with a cheaper Pentium G3220 Haswell processor. It also does not post and the board is still stuck, with any of the 4 memory sticks in A2. I did the following tests with the AX1200i (which passes the "paperclip test") and with a 500W ATX Rev 2.3 power supply...same results.

I'll need help putting the cap back on the socket. Using someone's help, I cut a piece of paper the right size to cover it for now. I have the cap but can't find how to reinstall it.

BTW, here's the URL of the regulator's specs: http://gs-power.com/db/pictures/modules/PDT/PDT060207001/DS_GS1185L_Rev1.0.pdf
MB: Maximus VIII Hero
CPU:Intel i7-6700K OC @ 4.7 GHz
Mem: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3600 MHz
Vid: EVGA GTX980 Ti SC@ 1530MHz
SSD:RAID1&0 Samsung 256G 840 Pro

HDD: RAID1 6TB Ultrastar 7K6000
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Case:Corsair 600T, mod for roof rad

Custom Loop:
Block:EK Supremacy Clean CSQ, Copper
Rads:AlphaCool ST30 360 & 120
Fans: 4 X Enermax CLUSTER Advance, Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm, KingWin DB122
Pumps:2 X MCP 35x in series
Tubing:Tygon 2475 1/2" ID X 3/4" OD

OK, I've got an RMA. It's on its way back!
MB: Maximus VIII Hero
CPU:Intel i7-6700K OC @ 4.7 GHz
Mem: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3600 MHz
Vid: EVGA GTX980 Ti SC@ 1530MHz
SSD:RAID1&0 Samsung 256G 840 Pro

HDD: RAID1 6TB Ultrastar 7K6000
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Case:Corsair 600T, mod for roof rad

Custom Loop:
Block:EK Supremacy Clean CSQ, Copper
Rads:AlphaCool ST30 360 & 120
Fans: 4 X Enermax CLUSTER Advance, Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm, KingWin DB122
Pumps:2 X MCP 35x in series
Tubing:Tygon 2475 1/2" ID X 3/4" OD

It's not supposed to spin up without the 8 pin and 4 pin?

Thanks for your help!

Chino wrote:
The motherboard is the culprit. RMA it.

Chino
Level 15
No, it shouldn't.

And to backup that theory, you've swapped CPU and it isn't working with the new CPU either. And you've tried all the sticks of RAM from the kit that you bought. So we can discard it being a CPU issue and RAM issue. That leaves us with either the motherboard or the PSU. I'm 90% sure it's the motherboard. If you can somehow borrow another PSU to test the motherboard with, we can fill in that other 10%. 😉

HiVizMan
Level 40
Based on what I have seen here RMA your board.
To help us help you - please provide as much information about your system and the problem as possible.

It's now RMAed. Thanks for the help!