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just my 2 cents

RickROG
Level 11
I absolutely hate SSD's; they are nothing but a cheap-as in money grubbing-attempt at a fast buck by the manufacturers to cash in on something that is obselete before they distribute them. I owned a Corsair 256G and sold it after 2 weeks. I noticed no real world significant gains in anything but boot and app load times-games etc. The 600G Velociraptors in RAID0 provide excellent performance at a reasonable cost and I have been using the Raptors since WD first started selling them back whenever-never had one fail. That said, I really don't care if the system takes an extra couple of seconds to boot up and when running an app/game; it all loads into memory and after that the HHD's are out of the picture, unless paging in which case nothing short of more memory will help anyways.
Like USB 3 and SATA III, SSD's cause nothing but disappointment in compatability and performance on anything. My USB 2 runs better most times than 3 and SATA III does nothing for me really over SATA II-all marketing hype. The third party SATA III and USB 3 chips the mobo manufacturers are polluting they're products with are, for all intensive purposes-useless; they just aren't compatable and do not work. Benchmarks are not my thing-each to his/her own; I look at how my system works doing the things I like to do. For example, I've run all my games at the highest settings possible using a single 7970 and have yet to falter. You visit x and y sites displaying a bunch of benchmarks showing AMD this, NVIDIA that-well they're full of it and I can prove it in real game play.
All my Office 2010 apps load nicely, work well with no glitching and I get no BSOD.
I agree with one of the moderators when he said SAS is the way to go and that will be my direction in the near future. Footnote, it looks like Hitachi-his drive of choice-has been purchased by WD. Those 64MB cache SAS drives are getting rare it would seem with few etailers stocking/selling them-450G being the largest Hitachi SAS I could find available.
Anyways, this is just my opinion and I'm sure the majority will disagree, but, then, that is what it is all about-isn't it!? 🙂

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RickROG wrote:
Thanks, corrected-looks like I need a spellchecker. 🙂


Actually I noticed this forum lets you download optional if you see a green check. But it's directly to Cnet's program called iespeller.exe Since English isn't my original language translation would be nice to have it translated so that everyone can understood each other so that people wouldn't misunderstood and create a forum war... lmao... (I know I'm being a hypocrite cos I thought I just started one... rather someone else did... lol)

But a lot of people don't use spell checker since most of the people who posts here are international... or that's what they call it where I live in... but hey I wasn't originally from this country... lol was forced to move here...
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Karmageddon wrote:
I find that my SSD (60gb mushkin chronos) did preform fast n the beginning, but since owning it for 3 months has now slowed down (still faster than my 7200 rpm mechanical but nowhere near as fast as the advertised 550mb/s).


Make sure Trim is enabled and try to keep some space free.
command prompt(should return 0):
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

SSDs operate slower when they are full because they must erase and then write on the fly. If you maintain free space and have Trim enabled then the drive can erase during down time to reclaim blocks for later use.
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jd2266
Level 7
just wanted to add that besides trim being enabled you will also want to turn off disc defrag.i also turn off system restore.
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jd2266 wrote:
just wanted to add that besides trim being enabled you will also want to turn off disc defrag.i also turn off system restore.


Windows 7 should not attempt defrag on an SSD but yes if it is doing so you definitely want it turned off.

As to system restore, as long as you only keep one or two restore points they don't take up much space. And they don't account for a significant number of writes that would be cause for concern. Given the benefit system restore provides there isn't a good reason to turn it off (IMO) unless you have a super tiny SSD.
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Necrosan
Level 12
For what it's worth Windows 7 is smart enough for most SSDs not to attempt defragging them.
My advice is don't disable automatic defragmentation unless your system contains only SSD media.
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Necrosan wrote:
For what it's worth Windows 7 is smart enough for most SSDs not to attempt defragging them.
My advice is don't disable automatic defragmentation unless your system contains only SSD media.


i just finished a fresh install with only a ssd drive .windows 7 ultimate 64bit sp1 and defrag was indeed set to run by default .i turned it off
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Necrosan wrote:
For what it's worth Windows 7 is smart enough for most SSDs not to attempt defragging them.
My advice is don't disable automatic defragmentation unless your system contains only SSD media.


Would Seagate Solid State Hybrid Drive would act like SSD?
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