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FanXpert 2 does not retain settings

fronzel
Level 9
I have two fans on the "optional" headers.
I was a bit disappointed when I found that these can not be controlled relative to the CPU temperature, but I set them to 850rpm in manual mode.

After reboot those two fans are always running at full speed, and FanXpert2 shows me they are set to 0rpm.
Pictures below will explain.

Any ideas?

before reboot:
10777

after reboot:
10776
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fronzel
Level 9
Ok thanks Bruce.

Did reseat it again. Used less TIM this time and it seems to have dropped 1 or 2 degrees.

I'm getting a waterblock for both the CPU and GPU. Probably the EK Supremacy if it ever gets in stock here.

I'm just worried i'll never acheive good speeds with this chip, as I am already hitting 90C (Max 64C in Ai Suite, 90C in most other software) when stresstesting at stock speed. Doesn't seem normal with temps that high on stock speed, even if it is just the stock intel cooler.

Now i must sleep!
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MeanBruceROG
Level 11
Place a small amount of TIM 3/5ths vertically Top to Bottom, North to South so it is spread directly above the die, the amount is so small for best results. But as a guide the syringe opening of the NT-H1 is perfect for delivering the paste, use a constant but slight pressure with your thumb and move your hand as the paste flows out of the syringe evenly, evenly, evenly don’t make any skips or create lean areas, then advance your hand so the tube or sausage shaped TIM is the same diameter along the entire length, visualize the IHS as divided into 5 sections and only apply the paste to the 3 interior sections, it will spread from there.

Even with utmost care like I said I reseated 6 times before the thermals were really low. Good Luck M8! If you mess up, don’t go with a bad TIM, wipe it clean off the CPU and just do it again, before placing, and forget “Noctua instruction number 3” on the back of the package. Do not rotate the heat sink left and right and smear it, not for Ivy Bridge. The sink placement motion should be gravity alone and “down only” for extremely low temps. Whew I am tired.

The photo shows the die underneath the IHS



edit: I got best results with the Noctua paste, but it only stays fresh and fluid for about 4months, but results are awesome.

Maximus Obsidious “Max”
Chassis : CaseLabs M8
PSU : Corsair Platinum AX860 (Seasonic) w/Corsair Gen2 AX Cables
CPU : Intel 3770k 4.2GHz Vcore 1.282 Delta T=2.5C at idle
RAM : Corsair Dominator GT 2133Mhz 2X4GB kit
Mobo : Asus Maximus V Extreme (you and me baby)
GPU : Asus 6870 DirectCU (Asus GTX780 5GB Coming Soon) 😛
Cooling : H100i Sanyo-Denki San Ace 120(x6)
Internal SSDs : Intel 520 120GB(x2) RAID0

fronzel
Level 9
So I've done some reading around the interwebz, and it seems my ~40C temps with stock speeds and stock cooler is reported by a lot of 3770k users.
This is kinda reassuring, and I will try to let it be for now, and revisit that subject when I have a proper cooling solution in place.

FanXpert is still acting up though. Did some reading around these forums and around the interwebz on the AI Suite too.
General consensus seems to be that AI Suite sensor data is not collected or derived from the core temperatures at all.

This means I will ignore AI Suite temperatures and use CPUID HWM, AIDA, Intel XTU, Real Temp or some other software that gives me actual core temps.
Tried the AIDA64 trial and I really like it. Lots of data and built in stresstesting.

In fact I'll probably throw out the whole AI Suite and get a proper fan controller. The Aquacomputer Aquaero perhaps, which apparently has some highly configurable software to go with it.
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fronzel wrote:

General consensus seems to be that AI Suite sensor data is not collected or derived from the core temperatures at all.



Agreed --- thought AISuite II / Sensor / CPU is monitoring the processor's TCASE temp ...

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-033342.htm
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MeanBruceROG
Level 11
I would be very happy with 40C idle with a stock cooler. That is a good seat fronzel. In another forum back in May when everyone was getting their new 3770Ks and mobos, I talked with quite a few enthusiasts and some were posting thermals of a 3770K at idle with a full water loop and one guy had a 360mmx63mm thick radiator and second 240mmx63mm radiator his RealTemp screenshots showed all four cores at 18 20 19 17, and my jaw just dropped.

Here is a brainteaser:

A screenshot from about 2 weeks ago, with my H100 and I really got this temp at idle. Anyone into cooling your rig let me know how you think I got this value.

It is a real value, and all cores are enabled, the only changes I made in bios was CPU level up to 4.2GHz and memory o/c'd to 2133Mhz, speed step and hyper-threading are both enabled, no other changes.

I haven't tried to reproduce it but I might this weekend. Anyway if you know alot about cooling you will figure out how it was done pretty easily. Its not a trick or anything, something anyone can do with some fans and normal stuff you would have in your office or home.

Anyway here it is: have fun with it.

Maximus Obsidious “Max”
Chassis : CaseLabs M8
PSU : Corsair Platinum AX860 (Seasonic) w/Corsair Gen2 AX Cables
CPU : Intel 3770k 4.2GHz Vcore 1.282 Delta T=2.5C at idle
RAM : Corsair Dominator GT 2133Mhz 2X4GB kit
Mobo : Asus Maximus V Extreme (you and me baby)
GPU : Asus 6870 DirectCU (Asus GTX780 5GB Coming Soon) 😛
Cooling : H100i Sanyo-Denki San Ace 120(x6)
Internal SSDs : Intel 520 120GB(x2) RAID0

MeanBruceROG
Level 11
OH well, guess no one was really interested in the 22C Idle CPU temp with Push/Pull. Here is how I got that low value.

When you use the H100 as an intake you can direct the refrigerated air pumping out of your ceiling by moving the vent directionals so the air moves directly into the H100 radiator, thru the air not using a duct or hose, just like it normally would.

Refrigerated air is usually 10C to 16C depending on your indoor air temp and your thermostatic setting.

Even if your ambient temp is 77F across the room, the cold air over your desk is pumping right into the H100 or your water loop radiator.
Maximus Obsidious “Max”
Chassis : CaseLabs M8
PSU : Corsair Platinum AX860 (Seasonic) w/Corsair Gen2 AX Cables
CPU : Intel 3770k 4.2GHz Vcore 1.282 Delta T=2.5C at idle
RAM : Corsair Dominator GT 2133Mhz 2X4GB kit
Mobo : Asus Maximus V Extreme (you and me baby)
GPU : Asus 6870 DirectCU (Asus GTX780 5GB Coming Soon) 😛
Cooling : H100i Sanyo-Denki San Ace 120(x6)
Internal SSDs : Intel 520 120GB(x2) RAID0

Zka17
Level 16
I did found that trick too! :cool: Check it here: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?18970-Optimizing-my-temporary-ROG-Rig/page2

BTW, you should submit your max CPU speed below 75C with the H100 in this thread: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?18496-Corsair-H100-OC-Competition..&country=&status=

MeanBruceROG
Level 11
Here's another hardware monitor to add to this thread:

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Maximus Obsidious “Max”
Chassis : CaseLabs M8
PSU : Corsair Platinum AX860 (Seasonic) w/Corsair Gen2 AX Cables
CPU : Intel 3770k 4.2GHz Vcore 1.282 Delta T=2.5C at idle
RAM : Corsair Dominator GT 2133Mhz 2X4GB kit
Mobo : Asus Maximus V Extreme (you and me baby)
GPU : Asus 6870 DirectCU (Asus GTX780 5GB Coming Soon) 😛
Cooling : H100i Sanyo-Denki San Ace 120(x6)
Internal SSDs : Intel 520 120GB(x2) RAID0

hyp36rmax
Level 7
Since i've recently been having this issue. I have figured out a way to have the ASUS Fan Xpert load your custom saved settings. It requires renaming your custom fan profile to "Standard (ASUS)" in the following directory:

"C:\ProgramData\ASUS\FanXpert\Profiles"

I then renamed the original to "Standard (ASUS) (Back Up)"