Asus Crosshair VIII Hero X570 Chipset Temperature

[zekikosiff]

Hello my motherboard chipset (pch) temperature idle 60-62 max 72 this is normal temp ?
Bios 0803

[RedSector73]

nazkai wrote:
Thanks,

So I notice that I have the updated drivers from Armory Crate and Asus AI-suite 3

Does this cover my Chip-set or are there other steps to take to double check?

-Naz

The AMD chipset drivers are Revision Number 1.9.27.1033 today, which is further the asus armory crate indicates in your picture and windows update, the link was provided.

[nazkai]

Thanks Red.

All the Chipset Drivers have been installed via the AMD link.

No real temperature changes to speak of but I am sure that the most current drivers are still likely helping me out in other key ways that I have little knowledge around.

As for the Hot PCH It stays around 65-68 playing the game Control With ultra settings and Ray Tracing enabled so perhaps even at these temps this will be ok or maybe these PCH temps will end up smoking the board after a while and I will need to RMA it really not sure whats nominal and whats too hot for the 37 View ThermalTake case and this X570 Crosshair hero VIII Wi/Fi Motherboard.
:eek:

Appreciate the assist, Might try doing a push/pull on my 240 AIO from the CPU or swapping out to Noctua SP fans next.

-Naz

[RedSector73]

nazkai wrote:
No real temperature changes to speak of but I am sure that the most current drivers are still likely helping me out in other key ways that I have little knowledge around.

As for the Hot PCH It stays around 65-68 playing the game Control With ultra settings and Ray Tracing enabled so perhaps even at these temps this will be ok or maybe these PCH temps will end up smoking the board after a while and I will need to RMA it really not sure whats nominal and whats too hot for the 37 View ThermalTake case and this X570 Crosshair hero VIII Wi/Fi Motherboard.

ASUS support were quoted elsewhere (not this forum), and were reported to say the chipset at 79-80 is "safe, but can be better".

here is some reddit posts about temps
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd6ze1/what_are_normal_x570_chipset_temperatures/

You have nothing to worry about, it is within normal ranges.

Noctua Fans on the other side of your AIO in push/pull make a nice difference without much of noise hit.

Mine maybe lower as the 2080ti is mounted horizontally and I have fan blowing air into the gap between the motherboard and the backside of the graphics card.

[nazkai]

Thanks Red Noctua's are on order and we'll see if they do somewhat in Pushpull.

-Naz 🙂

[nazkai]

Well I am back and can report that after several hours under load of a game Called Disco Elysium (Not Far Cry or anything like a heavy FPS) My Machine Got pretty toasty and even hit 80C. Doesn't seem to be my processor offhand or GPU as they didn't come near as toasty as the PCH but then they are both liquid cooled and going thorough Radiators.

First pic is of my system right after booting it up for the first time of the night and the second is after 2-3 hours of gaming.

When folks get some time could anyone here check out these after load temps and let me know your thoughts? Is 80 c under load ok for this PCH Chipset?

-Naz

[RedSector73]

Hey naz, that is well within normal for PCH.

buildzoid did good breakdown of it here - he rambles a lot but still worth it.

[nazkai]

Heh Man Red you are fast, someone outta pay you for all the help you dish out.

Wild I've never thought that Mobo chipset could get that toasty while gaming for a few hours. (I mean I could just about burn my hand feeling the back side of this case.

Thanks for the Video I will watch the whole thing and study it a bit.

At the moment I am considering 3 options and would like your take later when you have time (Hitting the sack soon as it's 2am here in Chicago.)

1. Do nothing and live with it and if/when it breaks deal with an RMA

2. Buy some Artic Grizzly instead of the Cooler Master Cyberpower used and also good get a 360 AIO (Not sure which to go with yet) to replace my ARGB 240MM Thermal Take one from the CPU Block and see if that is better.

3. Same as #2 but instead Buy a Huge Ugly CPU Noctua Cooler with 2 tower heatsinks and fans on both sides and see if that helpsl

4. Contact Cyber Power and ask them to RMA it and send me a new MOBO/machine and start all over again 😞


Outta curiosity what Temps do you see on your CPU/PCH and M.2 after 2 hours of gaming Red?

Thanks



-Naz

[RedSector73]

Thank you for you kind comments. I'm sure ASUS enjoy the free technical support (if you can call my comments that !).

(1) The problem is that failure of component and massive temperature rises go hand-in-hand and being polite the causation is often assumed as the cause by untrained people (not trained in electronics/engineering). Thus with an added anxiety of a failed pc component from past or recent present and the correct observation just prior of elevated temperature, people have easily become focused on temperature believing this was the cause (lower is better mantra).

The truth is within specification is fine. Even when a CPU or GPU go beyond safe temperature they throttle before damage, or even shut down the system. Even this isn't dangerous or bad, it is protected and safe, when you resolve the cause, the system goes back to running normally.

If your system has bad component, it will fail, hopefully before warranty and you get it replaced. (and if you have really good consumer laws then even outside of warranty isn't safe for manufacture of a defective component)

As long as the system is running within the design thermal specifications it will last exactly the same time regardless of where it exists within the acceptable thermal (upper or lower) limits. As long as it within the these thermal limits, it will last the designed time or longer, albeit component failure or excessive o/c or user caused failure or (in the past by fair few companies) bad design.



(2) I use Arctic Silver 5 (since it came in '99 varies versions) but Grizzly Kryonaut is better, enough so, that I am considering switching (seriously). I use coolermaster for AIO's and have for about seven years. I have this AIO https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-liquid-coolers/masterliquid-ml360r-rgb/ however if money is no object this one has fan (Noctua) built in, which cools the VRM https://www.asus.com/us/Cooling/ROG-RYUJIN-360/



(3) They are ugly as but they also work (I've used them in the past) nearly as good (2), less moving parts (points of failure). However that said, my minister for war & finances, has decided AIO's are in for the last eight years and ugly and clutter around the motherboard is out. I know where I like to sleep and there is no way I'm going to disagree with her or argue my points made before and win.



(4) Till it's broken through failure, you can't normally RMA and not have it returned or at least not here in Aussie world and we have some fairly good consumer laws.


I really don't think what my system get matters, we have some shared components but different cases and climates. Anyway heading into summer and the typical temps are rising now with warmer days, I see at the moment in gaming, (via Aida64) between 60 to 72 PCH Diode. M2 runs 32 to 40. The max for GPU 64 and CPU 62 (or lower). Both the CPU & GPU are on AIO's there is less temperature being dissipated near the motherboard components and I have fair airflow through the case but can make that extreme if needed (never needed).


You system seems fine to me for temperature given. I see nothing that worries me.


Hope you find this of help.

PS: There is new bios out early next month which if rumors are anything to go off sounds very positive improvements.

[nazkai]

Thanks Red 🙂

Ok I watched the buildzoid video and picked up that this chip-set can pull a lot voltages even when it sometimes doesn't need to.

I think I get what your saying that at this point if anything its most likely some component that is the cause of the heat and not the heat itself that is the issue but that it might be the cause of further issues down the line and (Hopefully during warrenty)

I appreciate your looking over the temps in Hwinfo64 as I though perhaps maybe something like the CPU was not being cooled enough during gaming and that might be leading to the higher PCH temps (hence my thoughts around swapping to a larger AIO and better Cooling paste.) and thanks for sharing your #'s even though they are not apples to apples considering our climate and case differences

A few other questions come to mind then.

Can one use Kryonaught on the AIO's because I also have some CoolerMaster Cooler Maker thermal gel paste that Cyberpower sent with the rig instead if you find that to be better for AIO's?

That ROG AIO does look sweet and might just do the trick since it cools with a fan as well...Tempting. One would think that a 240 aio outta be enough in most cases but clearly it's either not (or just plain not applying to the problem and acting as a mental red herring for me in this case)

How would I determine the actual range of Temperatures the PCH chip can take? is 80 c while under-load in spec then? (I assume so or that the board would have shut down if I am following you.)

Also random question but after listening to BZ talk about not liking the 2.5 GPS Realtek port I am tempted to switch over the 1 GPS Intel Lan Port or try the (currently unattached Wifi 6 capable antenna for craps and giggles.)

Any experience around those from your end?

I also Noticed that Cyberpower sent this board in with 16 GB 2 rank Dimm's in a-1 and b-1 and buildziod pointed out something about daisy chaning ram on the board and using a-2 and b-2 should I swap this around and would it make any difference?

Looking forward to the new bios hopefully that helps somewhat.

-Naz

[RedSector73]

You can use any TIM with AIO (not only the one they supply). Typically only liquid metal have (slight) etching effect and are hard to apply / need real care.

PCH has no known info about thermal specification (to my knowledge). My guess 90-105 before anything happens that isn't bad like a shutdown, more like thermal throttling and that it is protected. Remember this is diode temp not package or avg temp. If you measured the CPU on diode temp it would 80-94. The x570 chipset has a reported draw around 15 watts.

I use 1gps Intel port and the wifi given my router is less 3m away is great (ie: at really short range is awesome and no idea further away)

a-2 and b-2 (or slots 2 and 4 from cpu) highly recommended.