fw0815 wrote:
Installing the (IMHO overbloated) Software to control the fan speed really is
an absolute NO-GO here in the company with PCs in production environment
and some PCs not even running windows.
As matter of fact, the FaXpert2 software is pretty good, probably the best in the market, this owas one of the reasons i moved on to GENE VI, from my GENE IV, knowing that my gains on CPU were very little. The problem is that asus dont have it as a stand alone feature like RAMDISK, personally i think it should, but they have it with AISUITE III that imo is not needed for all users, specially for minimalist that dont like to load thier pc with a lot of software.
fw0815 wrote:
Maybe we'll try MSI or GBT next...
I dont have good reports from gigabyte, couple of friends have bought haswell and the limitations are almost as high as asus. MSI on the other had is leading this, i already bought and built on MSI Z87 GD65, and the bios fan control is as good as i expected, im able to drop down my Nocuta NF-A14 PWM to 225rpm on idle and ramp them depending on the temp conditions, its very easy to manage, you have 2 variables,
1) Temp
You have starting temp is the first point where the bios will start to ramp up, and final temp where it will reach the maximum of % load on the fans.
2) %
This also has 2 presets, frist is the idling or lowest % you want the fans to be, in my case 12.5% for case fans, and 37.5% for my CPU fan. And the second is max % you want to achieve on the the max temp, for example i find my noctua too noisy past 700rpm, so i set them up 37.5% as their max and on prime 95 goes to 670rpm, the CPU i left on 100% as the max, so it can reach 1100.
Another good thing about MSI vs Asus is that MSI does give you 2 PWM fan headers instead of 1, CPU_FAN1 and CPU_FAN2, both are independently controllable, in the past on Asus my idea was to have the same FANs on all slots including CPU and ramp them all together, now i have more options, as i explain before, i have all my case fans on one PWM header (CPU_FAN2) and CPU fan (CPU_FAN1), so i can control them accordingly to what i desire in cooling and noise.
One thing that i do not understand, is the way AI suite measure temps, not maching wiht any software baffeles me, i seen JJ explanation that takes a lot of reading from many sensors and creates what they so called more exact cpu temp.... but not matchign with anything i cant decide TJMAX is near so i need mroe cooling or that its too fan and i could lower my fans more to avoid noise. On MSI i can use whatever, in my case HWmonitor and coretemp, all the fan management is on the bios and reacts directly to the temps on those probes, you just have to tweak it down to what you want and see the results in windows under load and idle.
Asus will still give you a lot more control than MSI on pure software, if you use PWM fan only on the CPU_FAN, and 3pin on CHA_FAN headers, you can control all individually and its more precisie in terms of it overwriting the BIOS limitation, but the bad is that its bunch with AI SUITE III.
Raja@ASUS wrote:
Can't see this one being changed fast. Too many users with fans that don't spin up complaining in comparison to you guys. Greater need wins no matter how illogical it may sound in this case.
Im sorry raja, but this is not good enough. From your standpoint you should limit memory to 2133 because that way you dont have so many CODE 00 roming aorund cause they took memory too high and their CPU doesnt allow it... the greater good as you say.
I came to asus because i wanted a tweakable board. Even Intel motherboards have lower restriction than Asus on fan control on bios.
Either way, dont worry about it, i already moved on, hope in broadwell or skylake you guys reconsider and find a way to make it work out.
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