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Are Z97-A Chassis Fan Headers Actually True PWM or Fake

Feldon
Level 7
Im looking to buy an Asus motherboard. My budget would make me lean more towards the z97-A, but my decision will depend on the fan headers. I'm getting some mixed info and am hoping it can be clarified.

The manual for the Maximus VII Hero on page 1-43 has the fan header wiring diagrams
CPU_FAN - (GND,CPU FAN PWR, CPU FAN IN, CPU FAN PMW)
CPU_OPT - (GND,CPU FAN PWR, CPU FAN IN, CPU FAN PMW)
CHA_FAN1-4 (GND,CHA FAN PWR, CHA FAN IN, CHA FAN PMW)
All of them are wired the same. All PW.

The Manual for the Z97A on page
CPU_FAN - (GND,CPU FAN PWR, CPU FAN IN, CPU FAN PMW)
CPU_OPT - (GND,CPU FAN PWR, CPU FAN IN, CPU FAN PMW)
CHA_FAN1-4 (GND,CHA FAN PWR, CHA FAN IN, +5v)
So the CPU and CPU_FAN are the same on this model as the Maxius VII, but on the Z97-A the Chassis fan headers have a 5v for the 4th pin.

Based on the ASUS Z97 Motherboards - Overview and Official Support Thread and multiple review sites "Full PWM and DC support is present on EVERY fan header across all ASUS Z97 motherboards from the Z97-A to Deluxe, ROG and of course the TUF series. " So this makes me believe they are all true PWM even though the wiring diagrams are different. And, on http://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/z97/ it also says "PWM support on all fan headers".

Then in another post in these forums Z97 Fan Headers in the 3rd post Praz says:
And as I stated above full control of both PWM and DC mode fans are supported on all fan headers for Z97. There really was no reason for the confusion with Z87. The fan header pinout specifications clearly showed pin 4 PWM control for the CPU fan header only. All other included fan header pinouts had pin 4 at 5V. Armed with this info one should know that PWM functionality was limited to the CPU fan header only.

Which would lead me to believe a 5v pin would indicate voltage control not PWM which would mean the z97-A is not PWM for the chassis headers.

I did some googling and some people have complained that the 4pin headers are not PWM but actualy voltage controlled.

So I phoned Asus customer service and the guy assured me all the headers were PWM on the z97-A and that I should feel confident in that. I wanted to believe him, but I still would like more proof, hopefully by someone who actually has or has tried PWM fans on the chassis headers.

So I posted in the other official asus forums http://vip.asus.com/forum/ and got a response from a moderator.

Only the fan headers CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT are PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) controlled.

The four chassis fan headers CHA_FAN1-4 are not PWM controlled, but instead DC controlled. On these four headers are the PWM control line (pin 4) connected to +5V, which make the fans receive the full +12V on pin 1-2 (pin 1 is GND and pin 2 is +12V).

Pin 3 is the RPM sense line on both types of fans.

Whether you connect a DC controlled (3-pin fan) or a PWM controlled (4-pin fan) to the CHA_FAN1-4 headers, they will behave the same - running at a maximum of 12V.

The advantage with PWM controlled fans, is that they can run on lower RPM (minimum 20% of full speed) than DC controlled fans (minimum 70% of full speed).

PWM controlled fans always receive a pulse of +12V amplitude, but with varying width, while DC controlled fans receive a voltage from ? up to 12V. If a too low voltage would be allowed, the fan wouldn't start - or stop running.


He sounded very knowledgeable to me. Really confusing though. Is the info in ASUS Z97 Motherboards - Overview and Official Support Thread misinformationÉ

If anyone has any further insight on this please it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Praz
Level 13
Hello

It has been stated previously on this forum that the +5V is a misprint in the manual. All fan headers on all Z97 motherboards can be configured for either PWM or DC voltage control. Neither Raja nor myself would state this if this was not in fact true. The info you received from "the other forum" seems to be from someone quoting the misprint of the manual instead of speaking from firsthand knowledge.

Praz wrote:
Hello

It has been stated previously on this forum that the +5V is a misprint in the manual. All fan headers on all Z97 motherboards can be configured for either PWM or DC voltage control. Neither Raja nor myself would state this if this was not in fact true. The info you received from "the other forum" seems to be from someone quoting the misprint of the manual instead of speaking from firsthand knowledge.


Oh that is great to hear, thank you Praz, Appreciate it. I had originally posted this in the wrong subforum and didnt know how to move it to here so i re-posted. You can ignore or delete the other one. Thanks!

Praz wrote:
Hello

It has been stated previously on this forum that the +5V is a misprint in the manual. All fan headers on all Z97 motherboards can be configured for either PWM or DC voltage control. Neither Raja nor myself would state this if this was not in fact true. The info you received from "the other forum" seems to be from someone quoting the misprint of the manual instead of speaking from firsthand knowledge.


Not all fan headers. For the Z97-K/USB3.1 the CPU fan header is PWM only. Other types of fans run at 100 % all the time.

pmatil wrote:
Not all fan headers. For the Z97-K/USB3.1 the CPU fan header is PWM only. Other types of fans run at 100 % all the time.



uhhhh what?????
None of them are PWM only and all of them can be configured to run from point of stall to 100% whether it be by duty cycle or voltage control.



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein

JustinThyme wrote:
uhhhh what?????
None of them are PWM only and all of them can be configured to run from point of stall to 100% whether it be by duty cycle or voltage control.


That is how the CPU fan header works with the Z97-K. I have tested it, neither BIOS nor Asus AI suite can adjust the speed when I plug in a 3-pin fan. It always runs at 100 %. Even the fan tuning function sets the speed to 100 %.

Now, if it is SUPPOSED to work like you described then it's a bug in BIOS and I would like Asus to confirm this. In the manual it says: "The chassis fan connectors support DC or PWM modes". No mention of the CPU fan connector mode, other than "The CPU_FAN and CHA_FAN connectors support the Asus FanXpert2+ feature".

Praz
Level 13
Hello

You're welcome. 🙂