11-21-2018 12:39 AM - last edited 3 weeks ago by ROGBot
01-18-2019 10:52 PM
01-27-2019 11:35 PM
JustinThyme wrote:
Barrow just released blocks and I have two on the way, be here Monday. I thought they looked like EK knock offs but I got educated Today talking with a purchaser at performance PCs. Turns out that I had it backwards. EK licenses the design from Barrow!
01-29-2019 07:50 PM
Kutalion wrote:
Please, stop spreading false rumours. Every EK block is designed inhouse, and basically copied by Chinese manufacturers.
EK Strix block is scheduled for 1st of February as a most likely launch date.
01-30-2019 01:12 AM
JustinThyme wrote:
Not rumor, from a reliable source that reps both blocks. My jaw hit the floor too and I questioned it and was provided with enough proof to satisfy my inquiry. Will see when EK block hits the market this time as Barrow already produced one. Crappy delivery but theirs is out so they could not have copied EK. Your assumption was also mine as thats the first thing I said that the barrow looks like an EK knock off. I was wrong, it was the inverse. Not saying that EK didnt take a design and do it better, just that the original design was indeed Barrows that has been around on the Asian market well before EK was founded. Barrow started up in 1983, EKWB 21 years later in 2004.
I can say first hand that Barrow blocks are indeed made from inferior materials and the craftsmanship is poor at best. That doesnt change the primary designs that have been bought more than once. Not saying it happens with all of them but it does in fact happen. Im not going to divulge the source as that would be unethical as it was a conversation between two people and could cost them their job.
Ill lay very good odds from more sources that an EK block doesn't happen in 3 days. They haven't published any date and best info from reputable sources that works with them is mid February at the earliest. A direct inquiry a week ago was replied with "We plan on making one but no vailable dates, watch the news page for a release. Watercool had Available in Jan 2019 up on their pages for a few months. Just a few days ago they changed it to February.
I tried the barrow, design looks good except for one major flaw where the Nvlink bridge cant be fitted due to the placement of the G 1/4 terminal. The plating was cheaply done and no cuts or drill and tap points were even deburred, I bled on one of the blocks.
Right now round two Phanteks blocks are inbound and they are being accused of being a Watercool knock off. Ive had enough issues with EK lately that Im not going there again for the forseeble future.
01-30-2019 09:42 AM
Kutalion wrote:
I can't exactly comment on first block iterations a decade ago, but modern EK blocks are all designed inhouse. I work in EKWB, thus I share with you my own knowledge. I mean I watch our RND guys draw the blocks in Solidworks and other things I know nothing about and do some calculations flow stuff etc.
If you check out a live sample Strix 2080Ti block was showcased ~2 months ago. The design was finalized, but production components were holding EK back.
If you have issues with EK products, please contact us on Facebook page or over support tickets and we'll do everything to sort you out and fix whatever is troubling you.
01-30-2019 10:07 AM
JustinThyme wrote:
I did contact EK and got.....Check the news page.....Wheres the link to this showcase from 2 months ago? All I see is an announcement to a private invitation only viewing in a hotel room in Mandalay Bay.
Like I stated I cant speak for all blocks, just as you cannot.
Are you serious that a simple back has been a hold up for more than two months?
01-30-2019 06:34 AM
JustinThyme wrote:
Not rumor, from a reliable source that reps both blocks.
01-30-2019 09:39 AM
vsg28 wrote:
Can you say who this PPCs rep was? I know most of them, ditto people at EK and Barrow, and Bitspower and many others. Most of what you say is factually incorrect. Barrow and EKWB have nothing in common aside from some EK products being manufactured in China, and Barrow is a predominantly Chinese company.
01-30-2019 11:23 PM
JustinThyme wrote:
Not rumor, from a reliable source that reps both blocks..., just that the original design was indeed Barrows that has been around on the Asian market well before EK was founded. Barrow started up in 1983, EKWB 21 years later in 2004.
JustinThyme wrote:
Not PPCs and as stated its unethical to drag this person into mudslinging.
Take it or leave it, think Ripley's......
Facts remain. You want to prove it as rumor then be my guest, your claim to anything being factually incorrect is not plausible without evidentiary support. I trust the person who provided me with support more than an anonymous forum poster.
As for EK making some parts in china that's a bit contradictory to an earlier statement all designs and manufacturing are done in house. So who is right wit that one? You or the member who says he works for EKWB?
If the info is wrong then its wrong, just passing along what was provided by a reputable source. If its a lie, then they told it. I have no reason to disbelieve this person though nor to spread rumors. Like I stated I was dumbfounded myself.
JustinThyme wrote:
Wheres the link to this showcase from 2 months ago?
01-19-2019 05:55 AM