Z890 Support for Panther Lake and Nova Lake?

[ttesty_1]

I'm pretty sure that existing Z890 motherboards will become obsolete by the year end. The Z890 platform uses a remote memory controller and PHY, which means the memory controller is physically separated from the CPU core, leading to a latency penalty. Panther Lake and Nova Lake should address these issues through a new architecture and more cores.

[ttesty_1]

Panther Lake should be a slight improvement:

[Chainbold]

You are pretty sure wrong and confusing things.

(1) The Panther Lake series is  for mobility, not for desktops, like the Arrow Lake series running on the Z890 platform. 

(2) The Arrow Lake "refresh" (aka 300 series ) scheduled for the end of 2025 will  obvioulsy run at the same platform like Arrow Lake. 

(3) Nova Lake will be the successor to Arrow Lake, it is scheduled/rumored for the end of 2026, not 2025.  

Consequenlty, as it stands as of now, the existing Z890 motherboards will not become "obsolete" by the end of the year, at the end of 2026 at the earliest.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/an-arrow-lake-refresh-may-still-be-on-the-cards-with...

[ttesty_1]

Asus and Intel haven't released anything to prove that the motherboards won't become obsolete. Arrow Lake Refresh was cancelled and Nova Lake won't be compatible, so basically obsolete. Not the case with AMD.

[Chainbold]

If you claim that Z890 boards will be obsolete after just 12 months in the market, then you are the one who has to support such claim.

Intel has confirmed that the successor to Arrow Lake, "Luna Lake" will launch at the end of 2026

Intel Confirms Nova Lake CPUs For 2026

Regardless an Arrow Lake "refresh" at the end of 2025, the successor to Z890 will launch at the end of 2026. Until then the Z890 platform and corresponding boards are not "obsolete". 🙄 

[ttesty_1]

That article confirms that Arrow Lake Refresh was cancelled, and Nova Lake and Lunar Lake will launch in 2026 and make the Z890 obsolete/short-lived. No mention of Z890 support either. Just a ripoff. That article is my proof!

[Chainbold]

Everything in your comment above is either misleading or falsehood:

1. Your claim that Z890 boards will be "obsolete" at the end of 2025 was FALSE. The article confirms that Intel will launch the successor to Z890 by the end of 2026. 
2. Your claim that Lunar Lake will launch in 2026 is also false. You are again confused about desktop and mobility platforms. Lunar Lake is a mobility platform. Furthermore, Lunar Lake was already launched in 2024, and will not, as you claim, launch in 2026. 
3. Whether Z890 boards will be obselet when Z990 launches, has to be seen in 2026. Z690 boards were compatible with Z790, they were running 2 more CPU generations, 3 in total, and Z690 boards lasted for 3 years. 
4. Neither does the article that I linked says anything about "Arrow Lake refresh", as you claim. Whether there is such refresh or whether it is canceled, nothing about this is mentioned. 

You may wish to read the Intel statements and the article again, and try to understand that Intel is running different platforms / CPU series for desktop and mobility. 

[ttesty_1]

Luna lake -- not Lunar lake. Anyway, Arrow Lake will be obsolete before AMD's X870 is obsolete. The past architectures are very different this time v.s. Z890, which definitely won't last 3 years, and barely 1 year. The Arrow Lake refresh was cancelled and Intel announced Nova Lake, which may not be compatible with Z890 (after 10 or so more BIOS updates). And Luna Lake won't be Z890 compatible either. So like 1 year before obsolescence. AMD is more forgiving.