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Z790 APEX Availability Overclocking and Playtime Thread : )

iBruceypoo
Level 16
Newegg listing November 2nd and 3rd:

96062

Newegg listing November 4th, today:

96063

Did Newegg sell out their known incoming quantity of boards as Pre-Orders in 48hours? OR did they simply change the purchasing status?

Who knows right?

Did anyone grab a pre-order?
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W
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JohnAb wrote:
Not a bad idea when I think about it. My data drives are encrypted, so no security risk if it gets stolen. Not likely with two enormous dogs here, but good to be careful.


I don't know your working environment John - please don't sacrifice your PC's security for boot times. lol

Mine is a home office with only family nearby so log-ins are not so important. 🙂
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W

iBruceypoo
Level 16
Newegg US is now saying January 13th as the next date to purchase the next batch of Z790 Apex boards. 😮

Mark your calendars. lol

Batches have been selling out in 6 to 8hrs from the time Newegg opens.

January 13th, and yes it's a Friday. YIKES! Stay home don't go out stay safe - and order your new Apex. 😛
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W

JohnAb
Level 17
They seem to be available here in the UK, but I'm not allowed to get one. I've just been told that I've "wasted too much money already" lol, which is in fact true... but all depends on the definition of wasted I suppose 🙂
Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3501, MEI 2406.5.5.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2361, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

JohnAb wrote:
They seem to be available here in the UK, but I'm not allowed to get one. I've just been told that I've "wasted too much money already" lol, which is in fact true... but all depends on the definition of wasted I suppose 🙂


LOL. It's never a waste if you thoroughly enjoy it John. 🙂

Intel's roadmap says Z790 for this entire year, new Raptor Lake Refresh CPUs, yet the same chipset. So no new motherboards? Has that ever happened before?

Coffee Lake Refresh gave us new Z390 boards, has there ever been a "CPU only" new gen release?

Anyhoo, I'm skipping Z890 Meteor Lake/Arrow Lake in 2024, and going with Panther Lake 2025, so the Z790 Apex will be my primary work board for a very long time. That's why didn't mind investing in a new 1700 water block that also aesthetically matches the motherboard - it's going to be a long haul with this gen so might as well make it look nice.

I think Raptor Lake is one of the most exciting platforms to launch in years - we have much faster CPUs, mem kits that overclock to the moon, and gen 5 SSD 13,000MB/s speeds to look forward to. And the mem kits will only be getting faster over this entire year.

And buying an Apex gives you access to all those updates after you buy it, system overall just gets faster and faster over time. I'm pretty excited and the board imho is beautiful, but then already had bright white power cables and bright white fittings before the Apex 15 was announced, so it fit right in aesthetically. Didn't believe the Z590 Apex positive experience could be matched or exceeded, boy was I happily wrong about that. 😛

Also, Raptor is such an amazing platform, thought this would be a great time to finally get my 1st 8core CPU, there was no way I was dropping big money on the 11900K, yet everything changed with Raptor Lake, rumors are the last day of CES 2023, tomorrow, Intel will formally announce the 13900KS special edition CPU, that's gonna be a sweet CPU for my work apps even running it stock with TVB at 6.0Ghz short bursts - excited about actually owning an 8core processor.
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W

JohnAb
Level 17
To be honest, I feel much the same about my current setup. Although the 690 Hero start up time seems slow, once in Windows it's super quick and the 12900K's are still selling for ~£500 over here, so it will be a good while before it's truly out of date. The trouble with PCs is that keeping them bang up to date is an expensive business. I might even have still been on my i9 9900K if I hadn't started having random crashes and freezes. I still don't know for sure if the Gigabyte motherboard developed a fault or if a a BIOS update was causing the trouble. It was one of those 'can't roll back' releases. In the end, I just fell out of love with it 😞 This machine has been excellent so far and I've had just a single blue screen in 6 months. No other crashes or instabilities and for me, every BIOS I've used has worked flawlessly. Long may our happiness continue ! If I'm serious for once, I really can't justify an upgrade at this point and I should get at least another 3 years out of this setup. My board already supports Gen 5 SSDs, so a new drive as an upgrade might make sense. You should have your KS in a few days right?
Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3501, MEI 2406.5.5.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2361, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

iBruceypoo
Level 16
I've had a few blue screens last couple days with bios 0078, so rolled back to bios 0809, it's super stable.

Yes, its too darn expensive to update every gen, and mine is only a typewriter build, even every other gen is overdoing it a bit, but I love the hardware so much, and every other gen keeps me happy, lol.

Z77 > Z170 > Z370 > Z390 > Z590 > Z790 These are the only gens I've bought in the last 10yrs, Raptor is by far the best.

Some guys overclock hardware as a hobby, that's totally awesome and they buy every gen and sell and buy again, totally cool. :cool:

Yet for a home office computer setup every other gen works fine so far. I moved the Z590 Apex/11600K/Gskill DDR4 5866 CL22 over to 2ndary office PC so it will remain in service also until 2025 and Z990 Panther Lake launch - getting my money's worth with these Apex boards. lol

Rumors are the KS announcement is sometime today, so I'll find out, the launch date flying around is Jan 12, yet unconfirmed.

Whoops, also had a Rampage 5 Edition 10 board and 6800K HEDT, but when I OC'd the 4sticks of mem to only 3200/14 XMP the CPU package temp at would idle was up at 52C, so only owned it briefly, sold to an engineer friend who had no interest in overclocking memory, lol I forgot the chipset, X99?
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W

iBruceypoo
Level 16
13900KS was a no-show at CES 2023.

Maybe Intel will say something today, geez, edge of my seat here. :rolleyes:

Ran the 13900K CPU into add to cart and shipping, Newegg wants $15.85 for next-day delivery that means they already have them in stock at their Indiana and New Jersey East Coast warehouses - might do an overnight with the 13900KS.

From an east coast fulfilment center next-day $15
From California fulfilment center next-day probably $35 to $45, NOPE.

Also, so weird, every time I change to a new Z790 Apex bios Microsoft Office 2021 asks for a sign-in verification of new hardware - so strange. :rolleyes:
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W

JohnAb
Level 17
Do the overnight Bruce - you know you want to 🙂
Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3501, MEI 2406.5.5.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2361, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

JohnAb
Level 17
I've been looking into building a NAS for fun, so I want a mATX motherboard (to fit a small case) that will support 10th/11th gen processors with good features (so that I also have options for messing about as well). It's really hard to find good mATX motherboards, but I've found the MSI MAG B560M MORTAR WIFI Gaming Motherboard. It's only £132 and has 3x PCIe, 6x SATA, 2x M.2, 2.5G LAN and 6E Wi-Fi. Might be just what I need. It's fantastic for the money.

With 6x SATA, I won't need a SATA expansion card either. So all in, with cooler, case, CPU (maybe i3 10100, still looking) and 16GB DDR4 (I have a spare PSU) I'm looking at just under £500. With 6 bay commercial units shipping with slower processors, much less RAM etc and costing £650-850 that might be a good option. The idea is to run TrueNAS and then connect it to my new router via 2.5 Gbe ethernet.

This would be a lot cheaper than a 790/13th gen upgrade and provide many hours of fun. My strategy is tell my other half about the cost of 6x 4TB NAS grade HDDs later (probably another £540) lol. I don't need those straight away of course. It's my Birthday in 2 months, so good to plan ahead which I'm enjoying doing anyway...
Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3501, MEI 2406.5.5.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2361, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

JohnAb wrote:
I've been looking into building a NAS for fun, so I want a mATX motherboard (to fit a small case) that will support 10th/11th gen processors with good features (so that I also have options for messing about as well). It's really hard to find good mATX motherboards, but I've found the MSI MAG B560M MORTAR WIFI Gaming Motherboard. It's only £132 and has 3x PCIe, 6x SATA, 2x M.2, 2.5G LAN and 6E Wi-Fi. Might be just what I need. It's fantastic for the money.

With 6x SATA, I won't need a SATA expansion card either. So all in, with cooler, case, CPU (maybe i3 10100, still looking) and 16GB DDR4 (I have a spare PSU) I'm looking at just under £500. With 6 bay commercial units shipping with slower processors, much less RAM etc and costing £650-850 that might be a good option. The idea is to run TrueNAS and then connect it to my new router via 2.5 Gbe ethernet.

This would be a lot cheaper than a 790/13th gen upgrade and provide many hours of fun. My strategy is tell my other half about the cost of 6x 4TB NAS grade HDDs later (probably another £540) lol. I don't need those straight away of course. It's my Birthday in 2 months, so good to plan ahead which I'm enjoying doing anyway...


So many waycool mATX cases, that should be a fun build. How about this open air design?

https://yuelbeast.com/motif-monument

LOL, just kidding, no place for drives - except maybe Velcro'd to the back panel. lol 😛
Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP111 P121 E93 MC83
Gskill 8000 kit - TM5 stable at 8200MT/s 38 48 48 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
WD_Black SN850X 1TB 7300MB/s Reads 6300MB/s Writes
LG 32in 4K IPS 32UP83A-W