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Z790-A Wifi7 and 14900K: low CPU-Z scores on new bios 1801

fusseli
Level 7

I'm having a similar issue as this thread: https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/gaming-motherboards/asus-z790-dark-hero-14900k-newest-bios-1801/m-p/10...

I have tried all combinations of clearing cmos / intel Extreme & Performance defaults / MCE enabled and disabled, AI enabled and disabled, and I can't get CPU-Z scores to go above about the 915/14500 range. My temperatures are very good, staying 85C to 90C on all-core stress tests on intel extreme defaults.

Seeing the other thread, sure enough, I get the same behavior. Setting win11 power plan to max performance or GameTurbo high performance actually drop the CPU-Z scores even lower, to like the 850/15000 to 870/15500 range. Setting power plan to balanced restores scores to around 915/16000

I would expect to roughly match CPU-Z baseline of 931/16700 for 14900k using intel defaults, and at least be able to exceed them slightly even by enabling MCE/AI features, what is going on?

System specs:

  • Z790-A Wifi7 on bios 1801
  • 14900K
  • 32gb Corsair 7200 CL34 -- on XMP-I
  • 360mm AIO cooler & contact frame
  • 7900XTX
  • 1200W atx3.0 80+ gold psu
Z790-A II | 14900K | 32gb Corsair 7200 CL34 | Corsair H150i & contact frame | 7900XTX | 1200W PurePower 12M Gold
Z790 Hero | 13900KS | Corsair H150i | 96GB 6600 CL32 | 850W DarkPower 13 Titanium
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inge70
Level 13

Z790-A WiFi7?

I didn't even know Asus had such a motherboard.

You probably mean the Z790-A WiFi II, which supports WiFi7.

Your low scores could be due to the C1E being active.

With UEFI 1801, however, you can disable it again in the UEFI:


1. Enhanced system performance, stability and allowed the C1E power state to be disabled.

 

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Okay I will check for a C1E power state, thanks!

Z790-A II | 14900K | 32gb Corsair 7200 CL34 | Corsair H150i & contact frame | 7900XTX | 1200W PurePower 12M Gold
Z790 Hero | 13900KS | Corsair H150i | 96GB 6600 CL32 | 850W DarkPower 13 Titanium

I found and disabled C1E in bios (not recommended according to bios) in platform power management, and it does not change cpu-z scores

Z790-A II | 14900K | 32gb Corsair 7200 CL34 | Corsair H150i & contact frame | 7900XTX | 1200W PurePower 12M Gold
Z790 Hero | 13900KS | Corsair H150i | 96GB 6600 CL32 | 850W DarkPower 13 Titanium

C1E active means the CPU is slowed down at temperatures above around 75 degrees Celsius. Therefore, with C1E active, temperatures in stress tests are lower, but so are the scores.
What score do you expect in the CPU_Z stress test?

What score do you expect in the CPU_Z stress test?
Have the scores ever been higher than they are now?
Due to the different hardware in PCs, you rarely achieve the same scores as other users.

If you're having problems with the core clock speeds, as in the link you posted earlier, it could also be due to the current Intel microcode that is causing your i9 to no longer run as fast as it used to.
What clock speeds do your cores have?

According to Intel, the 14900K has the following clock speeds:
Maximum Turbo Clock Speed
6 GHz
Clock Speeds with Intel® Thermal Velocity Boost
6 GHz
Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Frequency ‡
5.8 GHz
Performance Core Maximum Turbo Clock Speed
5.6 GHz
Efficient Core Maximum Turbo Clock Speed
4.4 GHz
Performance Core Base Clock Speed
3.2 GHz
Efficient Core Base Clock Speed
2.4 GHz

The 6 GHz is NOT all-core, but limited to individual cores. Which cores can clock at what speed should be found in the UEFI under "AITweaker/Thermal Velocity Boost."
However, these clock speeds are only available in boost mode, etc.
If the corresponding "High Performance" power plan delivers a lower clock speed than the "Balanced Power Plan," it's Windows' fault, not Asus's and its UEFI.

In addition, Intel's microcode, which is stored in the UEFI and which Asus doesn't change, may also be responsible for the CPUs not achieving their previous performance levels, because 13th and 14th generation Intel CPUs have the problem of premature degradation and aging, which the microcode was intended to prevent. However, this means that the CPUs may then deliver less performance than advertised.

 

Stress tests are only meant to test hardware performance for errors, rather than to compare scores.

As long as you don't have any issues with your hardware, such bench tools are irrelevant, unless you're determined to always achieve the highest score to be the best.

I used to do bench tests quite often, but I didn't get much use out of them, as such full loads are almost never needed in everyday PC use, unless you're constantly running a PC at full load for encoding, CAD, etc.

I've stopped doing that, as my little 13700K reaches the clock speeds specified by Intel when it's supposed to.

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Wesley1
Level 12

I have i5 CPU, but I found out that enabling Intel's over-current protection can cause significant throttling on CPU. In BIOS it is named IA CEP. 

IMHO just limit CPU current to reasonable value for your processor, and disable automatic protection.