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Z690 Hero BIOS 3603 is broken

lastique
Level 7

When Intel Default Settings are enabled, CPU power limits that are explicitly set in the BIOS are ignored. My 12700K is limited to 190W regardless of what I set in the BIOS.

When I enable ASUS Advanced OC Profile, it shows a message *recommending* me set a bunch of settings to auto. When I press OK, it actually sets them to auto without my consent. In particular, it resets LLC Mode, power and current limits, and disables Overclocking TVB. WTF?

But there's more. The same message (with the single OK button) is displayed whenever I change various settings in the BIOS, like AVX2 offset, core ratio mode and some others. And again, pressing OK borks the BIOS settings I had set previously.

Did you even test this release? Went back to 3501.

 

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Silent_Scone
Super Moderator

Hi @lastique,

Let's take a step back here. Are you saying that applying the ASUS Recommended OC Profile yourself is insufficient consent?

 

13900KS / 8000 CAS36 / ROG APEX Z790 / ROG TUF RTX 4090

There are only two options, Intel Default Settings and ASUS Advanced OC Profile. There's no "Leave my settings alone and keep them working as before" option, and none of the two options work like that, as I described. This is my main complaint, as I simply have no way to keep my settings working with this BIOS release.

Furthermore, selecting ASUS Advanced OC Profile does not give you a choice, it simply shows an informational message with a single OK button and then goes ahead and silently modifies settings. No, this is not what I would call a "concent". A concent must be an informed choice, i.e. the message must say that it *will* change these and these settings and must offer a way to decline.

 

Surely once you've Removed Enforce all Limits and Enabled the ASUS profile you're able to overwrite any power limits within the CPU Power Management menu...?

I'm not sure what the system needs your consent for...just apply the settings manually.

13900KS / 8000 CAS36 / ROG APEX Z790 / ROG TUF RTX 4090

Yes, but please read my original post again. When I change other settings, the same message appears and resets my power/TVB settings.

And I don't understand why ASUS' profile must change my settings to begin with. Or, alternatively, why there isn't a profile that leaves my settings alone.

I’d need to try and replicate this, but I wasn’t seeing this on the Apex Encore at all. Perhaps make a video showing us the behaviour.

13900KS / 8000 CAS36 / ROG APEX Z790 / ROG TUF RTX 4090

JohnAb
Level 17

Just upgraded, no problems for me so far. I want to see if those code 53 errors have gone that I was getting occasionally with 3401 and 3501. I'll do some testing over the next few days and report back. 

Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3603, MEI 2407.6.1.0, ME Firmware 16.1.32.2418, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

Just a quick update. Over 2 weeks ago, I said "Just upgraded to 3603, no problems for me so far. I want to see if those code 53 errors have gone that I was getting occasionally with 3401 and 3501. I'll do some testing over the next few days and report back. "

Well, I'm pleased to say that after maybe 6 code 53 errors with 3401 and 3501, BIOS 3603 seems to have fixed things. 

Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3603, MEI 2407.6.1.0, ME Firmware 16.1.32.2418, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

Are you using any manual overclocks on this bios? Default settings? Looking to upgrade myself, but not sure as I see others are having BSODs etc.

I'm pretty much using defaults. The only things I change are:

XMP on, PCH voltage reduced to midpoints, GNA enabled, Dynamic Tuning Technology on (only to experiment with Intel Application Optimisation), Fan speed adjustments. 

That's it, nothing clever. No BSODs, everything has been 100% stable for me so far (although I do have slow memory, only 5200). The only issues I've ever had were those recent code 53 errors on the previous 2 BIOS versions. Other than that, every BIOS during the last 2 years has been solid for me.  

 

 

 

Z690 Hero, 12900K, BIOS 3603, MEI 2407.6.1.0, ME Firmware 16.1.32.2418, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.