06-01-2024 11:14 AM
When Intel Default Settings are enabled, CPU power limits that are explicitly set in the BIOS are ignored. My 12700K is limited to 190W regardless of what I set in the BIOS.
When I enable ASUS Advanced OC Profile, it shows a message *recommending* me set a bunch of settings to auto. When I press OK, it actually sets them to auto without my consent. In particular, it resets LLC Mode, power and current limits, and disables Overclocking TVB. WTF?
But there's more. The same message (with the single OK button) is displayed whenever I change various settings in the BIOS, like AVX2 offset, core ratio mode and some others. And again, pressing OK borks the BIOS settings I had set previously.
Did you even test this release? Went back to 3501.
06-01-2024 12:47 PM
im actually so lost on what the actual problem is your talking about...
you hit intel limits and are mad about it actually following intel spec?
then you hit asus oc profile and are mad that it changes the settings to make sure the oc is stable?
really not sure what the issue is.
06-01-2024 12:58 PM
The issue is described in the original post. I'm mad that the settings I set are either not applied (when Intel's profile is enabled) or overwritten (when ASUS' profile is enabled). Then I'm noting that the same ASUS' profile message is displayed when changing various settings besides the profile selection. This is clearly a bug.
IMO, Intel/ASUS profile selection should only affect what "Auto" means for various relevant settings. When the user sets a value explicitly then *that* value must be used regardless of the selected profile. Alternatively, selecting Intel/ASUS profile should set the corresponding settings in the BIOS *once* to the values required by that profile. Then, if the user changes those settings, those changed values are actually applied on boot.
06-17-2024 04:03 AM
Having crashing issues with 3603. Had to go back to 3501. Working fine now.
i9 12900K, Asus Z690 HERO, Asus TUF RTX3080 Ti, G.SKILL Ram 32Gx2, Corsair HX1200 1200W PP, CORSAIR 7000D, Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit
06-17-2024 04:53 AM
Question: If I use ASUS Advanced OC Profile. but then under the MCE option choose to "Enforce All Limits", are the other OC options still applied?
06-17-2024 05:39 AM
Haven't tested this, but if you're enabling enforce all limits, power limits should be restricted to the defaults for that SKU.
06-17-2024 05:43 AM
Thanks. I just got a14700K and the new BIOS, but running the Intel Defaults vs the Asus OC Profile, I got a 10% lower CPU Score in 3D Mark Fire Strike. I would prefer not to lose 10% of the CPU performance if possible, while avoiding the degradation issue (maybe it’s not impacting the i7 CPUs as much?) So I’d figured I would try this combo (Asus Advanced OC Profile + Enforce All Limits)
06-17-2024 06:01 AM
It has not been confirmed what the root cause of the instability is. If you weren't unstable before but are still concerned, simply run as you were but set PL1 and PL2 as well as the current limit.
06-17-2024 09:54 AM
didnt intel tell its shareholders that they found fast degredation on the cpus due to high current? thats at least what hardware unboxed said in one of their recent videos. not saying its true but. if its coming from intel to its shareholders.
take a look if you havent already id love to hear your thoughts :Intel Partners Are Angry: Power Spec Woes, Silicon Degradation & Poor Communication (youtube.com)
06-17-2024 10:41 PM - edited 06-17-2024 10:55 PM
Link doesn't work.
"High current" is what will degrade a CPU faster, that's a statement that objectively anyone can get behind, as anything beyond stock specification current increases potential for such things (that’s overclocking).
The CPUs have a PL limit of 256W stock. However, Intel hasn't made any formal statements and is denying the recent leaked document regarding Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost behaviour being the culprit.