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Updated BIOS to 1601 and getting very low FPS 15-20 in all games.

Gedimin
Level 8
Hello all. For the past week I am having a really weird and annoying issue after updating Bios to v 1601. In all the games like Assassin's Creed Valhalla, RDR2, Quake Champions I used to get 100+ FPS. Now I get 15-25 FPS. In addition Windows 11 randomly freezes even outside of games. Sometimes Windows hangs right after it starts. Sometimes an hour or so later simply while using the web browser.

In BIOS in Extreme Tweaker settings I tried leaving everything on default which sets memory on 4000 mhz instead of 4800 mhz. Tried manually settings DRAM frequency to 4800 mhz, and also tried the AEMP profile which sets memory to 5200 mhz. I did not try changing any voltage settings since I am not sure what to set them to.

All of the above did not help. If anyone has any suggestions please respond here. Thanks in advance!

Since BIOS updated all the BIOS settings were reset and I am not sure what exactly was customized in Bios for my system.
Below are the specs of my computer. I bought it prebuilt from a computer store.

ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME
4 x 16GB Patriot Signature Series DDR5-4800
MSI GeForce RTX 3090 GAMING X TRIO
Intel® Core™ i9-12900K(F)
Windows 11
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Problems like this are very frustrating and time consuming, so you have my sympathy. I also have have BIOS 1601 with all settings on defaults (apart from a slight reduction in PCH voltages for temperature improvements) and performance has been fine. I have a 12900K but just 2 sticks of Corsair 5200 DDR5 to give 32GB RAM. I also have a 3090 (TI).

It's almost impossible to say what your problem might be, but my thinking would be as follows:

a) Has anything changed - new software, video drivers, Windows updates etc. Have you installed anything that might be considered untrustworthy?
b) Have any hardware settings been changed? (particularly relating to the BIOS or GPU)
c) I have read that 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM can be less stable than 2, but your system was OK before, so probably not relevant here
d) I would run memory tests anyway as they are quick and easy (you have done that)
e) Check your cables and replug all USB & other connections. I had a faulty cable recently that was causing all sorts of strange issues. Took ages to track it down.

It's less likely that you have experienced some sort of hardware fault, so working on the assumption that everything was fine before you updated the BIOS, the first thing I would do is go back to the the previous version and take it from there. Keep detailed records of everything you try and change just one thing at a time. You'll find that such notes can be invaluable in thinking about what effect was obtained and what you might try next. A slow, methodical approach is really the only way to move forward. I'm assuming that you have a decent virus checker? If not, you also never know if some nasty has appeared on your system.

After considering anything else else that might have changed recently and dealing with that, I would be thinking about a fresh install of Windows with all BIOS settings on defaults. Install as little software as possible initially - for example, don't install Armoury Crate, just add all of your mobo drivers manually. Start planning for a fresh install while you try some simpler things first, but you can start planning and making sure that all files, passwords and data are backed up in advance in case that route is chosen. Take it slow and have a really good think about a good plan of attack. Good luck and another thing I always do is keep images of Windows for easy restores. Worth considering once you get it all sorted - a massive potential time saver for the future.
Z690 Hero, BIOS 3101, MEI 2345.5.3.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2330, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, i9 12900K, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

I use veeam backup software to create volume level backups. I restored to a 7 day old backup and it did not help. I am thinking about reinstalling Windows as you said, which will be my last attempt before I take it to the store where I bought my computer. Will have to drive 800 km.

And check the QVL too:

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MZ790A Bios 2002, GSkill F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TZRK, 13900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.0, Asus Strix 4090 w/ Optimus block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Samsung 990, Windows 11 Pro

Hopper64
Level 14
Set your bios to default or auto. You might just use optimized defaults on the exit menu and then test using memtest outside windows.
MZ790A Bios 2002, GSkill F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TZRK, 13900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.0, Asus Strix 4090 w/ Optimus block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Samsung 990, Windows 11 Pro

Hopper64
Level 14
There may have been settings in the bios which were wiped out when you updated to 1601. I would make notes and take pictures of all the bios settings if you have to take it back.
MZ790A Bios 2002, GSkill F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TZRK, 13900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.0, Asus Strix 4090 w/ Optimus block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Samsung 990, Windows 11 Pro

ahfoo
Level 13
To add on what Hopper64 was quoting. I do not think the RAM you bought (2 pair of 2X16 kit=64GB) will not work well in the system To be honest some retailer do not even know any ram kit might not be the same batch, same production line when it reached their store. They just pick what you want and did not understand in order for 4 stick of ram to work hand in hand required a quad pair of ram in a single package such as the image attached. In the first place quad pair are far for expensive the 2 different pair of same frequency and timing as compared to quad pair. That always happened. QVL list is another issue. Not all RAM or new RAM released to market may not be tested with every single model of mobo and to male it worst different bios version, It just a guide for reference.

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One thing that does get cancelled when the BIOS is updated is re-sizeable BAR support for your GPU. I don't think that is likely to be the issue here, but try turning it back on (assuming it was on before). The other thing that also gets reset is the memory speed, but again this is highly unlikely to cause such a major drop in fps. I can only say that BAR support and memory are reset with certainty because everything else on my motherboard is at defaults anyway. However, I'd bet good money that everything goes back to defaults. Oh there is one more thing - if you have saved any settings profiles in BIOS, they get wiped too with a new BIOS.

Good to know that you have tried restoring Windows from a backup image. Before you do anything else, go back to the last good BIOS that you used. It will only take 10 minutes and at least you can eliminate that as the cause. To me, that's the only thing that has changed (and could well influence the behaviour you are seeing) if I read your posts correctly.

Let us know if that works. Otherwise, you'll have to work through other things one at a time. A fresh Windows install is never a bad idea as long as you have everything needed to hand. If you do, it will take about an hour with updates, followed by drivers and software. I would view that as a last resort at this stage though. Try the BIOS first.

Also, thinking ahead a little, I think it would be worth doing the BIOS and a fresh install before taking your PC back to the store. It's a long drive just so they can do it. OK, they might find a fault and it's worthwhile in the end, but I'd save the long drive for now and do what you can yourself first.
Z690 Hero, BIOS 3101, MEI 2345.5.3.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2330, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, i9 12900K, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

A few more easy/quick ideas before I go:

1. Have you made sure that all cables between the PSU, motherboard and GPU are properly seated and plugged in ? A poor connection could certainly cause random freezes (as could a faulty PSU)
2. As I suggested before, do check ALL cables, including everything connected to the motherboard directly. Fans, RGB, internal USB, audio, case connections etc. The faulty cable that caused me blue screens and mouse/keyboard freezes was a USB cable to an external radio card.
3. I don't know if your 3090 GPU has a BIOS selector switch? If it does, could that have been knocked over into the other position?
4. You said you went back to a 1 week old backup, but I think the problems also started around then. Do you have an older backup you could try (say 2 weeks ago)

OK, good luck for now...
Z690 Hero, BIOS 3101, MEI 2345.5.3.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2330, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, i9 12900K, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

Low FPS could also be a symptom of thermal throttling due to overheating. Have you checked CPU and GPU temperatures using something like HWiNFO64? Could be that the CPU is not seated properly or that the GPU fans are not turning fast enough (or at all) ...
Z690 Hero, BIOS 3101, MEI 2345.5.3.0, ME Firmware 16.1.30.2330, 7000X Case, RM1000x PSU, i9 12900K, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Corsair H150i Elite AIO, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs.

JohnAb wrote:
A few more easy/quick ideas before I go:

1. Have you made sure that all cables between the PSU, motherboard and GPU are properly seated and plugged in ? A poor connection could certainly cause random freezes (as could a faulty PSU)
2. As I suggested before, do check ALL cables, including everything connected to the motherboard directly. Fans, RGB, internal USB, audio, case connections etc. The faulty cable that caused me blue screens and mouse/keyboard freezes was a USB cable to an external radio card.
3. I don't know if your 3090 GPU has a BIOS selector switch? If it does, could that have been knocked over into the other position?
4. You said you went back to a 1 week old backup, but I think the problems also started around then. Do you have an older backup you could try (say 2 weeks ago)

OK, good luck for now...


what is a BIOS selector switch? How can I find out if it has it or not and where is this setting configured?

I have rolled back to the 7 day old C:\ backup a few days before I started this forum thread. No older backups available.