OFFICIAL Bios ver. 2004 will not allow bios flashback THREAD

[mr_allroy]

Hi all,

It looks like at least a couple of us have an issue flashing back to earlier bios with ver. 2004. Both with the UEFI method and the usb flash back will not work (3 usb drives and none worked). The bios setting to allow this is enabled. I have a Z690 Hero.

If you have this issue please reply to this thread so we can keep all the info in one thread. It will help if you list your MB model as well.

Thanks
( I should also note that the voltage issues found in ver 1720 appear to be fixed in 2004.)

UPDATE - It seems that real time ram timings can't be changed using Memtweakit or any other tool. Was working on 1601. Can anyone else confirm this?

[drsam]

kaedex wrote:
Not sure if bricking the motherboard with an irreversible bios is a good idea.. XMP is still broken for me, 4400mhz memory kit at default 2166mhz is not fun.

Does the new bios help with XMP profiles? It is totally unacceptable for ASUS to release a bios that is not stable and not allow rolling back!Â*

ASUS FIX THIS OR ALLOW ROLLING BACK from 2004 !!!!Â*

[kaedex]

drsam wrote:
Does the new bios help with XMP profiles? It is totally unacceptable for ASUS to release a bios that is not stable and not allow rolling back!Â*

ASUS FIX THIS OR ALLOW ROLLING BACK from 2004 !!!!Â*

Tried the new bios and XMP doesn't work, maximum I got stable manually was 3600mhz on a DDR4 2x16gb Gskill 4400mhz kit..

No roll back possible (only back to the 2004) and there's no warning about it on the new version like the other one did when I downloaded it.

I already contacted support and waiting for a reply..

[BenchAndGames]

kaedex wrote:
Tried the new bios and XMP doesn't work, maximum I got stable manually was 3600mhz on a DDR4 2x16gb Gskill 4400mhz kit..

No roll back possible (only back to the 2004) and there's no warning about it on the new version like the other one did when I downloaded it.

I already contacted support and waiting for a reply..

But you dont need again a warning on every new bios release after 2004, It is perfectly understood that any new bios after 2004, they will not let go rollback below 2004 version.

The warning is set to 2004 version, all new bios from here on, carries with it all previous changes in all versions, including the 2004 changes, and the "warning" thing

It is so easy and clear to understand...

[kaedex]

BenchAndGames wrote:
But you dont need again a warning on every new bios release after 2004, It is perfectly understood that any new bios after 2004, they will not let go rollback below 2004 version.

The warning is set to 2004 version, all new bios from here on, carries with it all previous changes in all versions, including the 2004 changes, and the "warning" thing

It is so easy and clear to understand...

So I'm supposed to read every older bios notes?

Give me a break..

[Drayco31]

BenchAndGames wrote:
But you dont need again a warning on every new bios release after 2004, It is perfectly understood that any new bios after 2004, they will not let go rollback below 2004 version.

The warning is set to 2004 version, all new bios from here on, carries with it all previous changes in all versions, including the 2004 changes, and the "warning" thing

It is so easy and clear to understand...

For those of us that already know 2004 can't be rolled back yeah, but for those that don't update and check for updates or this forum won't. They should include a description on any new bios that says they cannot be rolled back earlier than 2004, assuming that remains the case.

[bscool]

Agree it should be in all newer bios notes that if updating can only roll back to 2004.

[BenchAndGames]

Than they should add every single changed they already made it in all previosly versions starting with the very first one, because people are supposed to not read only the very last one ??

OFC dude you have to read every single bios when at least you update for the first time, so you know what they fixed it in all the versions...if you not read....thats totally your problem....comon...1 minute read it is so life braking you ??? omg this generations of today.....

[Drayco31]

BenchAndGames wrote:
Than they should add every single changed they already made it in all previosly versions starting with the very first one, because people are supposed to not read only the very last one ??

OFC dude you have to read every single bios when at least you update for the first time, so you know what they fixed it in all the versions...if you not read....thats totally your problem....comon...1 minute read it is so life braking you ??? omg this generations of today.....

This generation? How old do you think we are? To be clear I'm not this generation.

Fact is plenty of people don't check every single update notes. Doesn't help when everywhere constantly say make sure you are fully updated to ensure the any issue you're having is not due to having outdated x. They literally update to the latest because that is what is always recommended.

You are also forgeting NOT everyone that buys computer hardware has a clue about computer hardware. I for one am still on 1504 and using Nvidia 516.94 and have other out dated stuff. Been screwed so many times in the past where newer = more bugs and time wasted reverting, when possible, that I don't update immediately anymore.

So again just because you'd, I and some others, MAY do something that doesn't mean everyone else would. Oh and FYI I built my Nephews system earlier in the year. He's only 13, it's his first PC and his parents lack experience outside Stupid/SMART devices.

Why is it hard to add/change this for 2004 Bios notes

3. Many ME updates and optimizations for the next-gen CPU are included. This version does NOT allow rolling back to the previous versions, not even via USB BIOS FlashBackâ„¢, to ensure better compatibility.

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3. Many ME updates and optimizations for the next-gen CPU are included. This version does NOT allow rolling back to versions before 2004, not even via USB BIOS FlashBackâ„¢, to ensure better compatibility.

omg the ignorance and arrogance of some people.....

[BenchAndGames]

Drayco31 wrote:


1) They literally update to the latest because that is what is always recommended.

2) You are also forgeting NOT everyone that buys computer hardware has a clue about computer hardware. I for one am still on 1504 and using Nvidia 516.94 and have other out dated stuff.

I have underlined the most important thing you have said, and I am only going to answer this, since everything else is superfluous.

1) Exactly as you have stated, it is always recommended to update to the latest bios version, and you are never supposed to go back. It is as simple as this.

2) And about the fact that not everyone has knowledge about hardware, I agree, and for this same reason a bios update is not a simple game, it is not a simple installation of some software/game, it is much more complicated and for this reason it is necessary to be very careful when you update the bios, and clearly you have to read very carefully all the changes of all the previous and current versions to know if you have to update the bios or not.

Since I repeat, updating the bios is not a simple installation of software/games, where you can then uninstall it and delete its history.

[Drayco31]

BenchAndGames wrote:
I have underlined the most important thing you have said, and I am only going to answer this, since everything else is superfluous.

1) Exactly as you have stated, it is always recommended to update to the latest bios version, and you are never supposed to go back. It is as simple as this.

2) And about the fact that not everyone has knowledge about hardware, I agree, and for this same reason a bios update is not a simple game, it is not a simple installation of some software/game, it is much more complicated and for this reason it is necessary to be very careful when you update the bios, and clearly you have to read very carefully all the changes of all the previous and current versions to know if you have to update the bios or not.

Since I repeat, updating the bios is not a simple installation of software/games, where you can then uninstall it and delete its history.

Newsflash bugs happen or the patch notes do not mention a specific change that the user dislikes/does not want. Tell me before hand that I won't be able to undervolt is a big fat NO! Yet no bios update mentions that as a bug or intended function. Again I point out NOT everyone has a clue about tech. Just because you and I may doesn't mean others will. Thus skirting the issue and using ignorance for them not reading every single patch note doesn't address the issue. If you can not Go back prior to 2004 that should be included on EVERY single Bios update notes. It';s not a hard thing to include. They added text to the 2004 notes so why not later versions?

Saying it's not Simple doesn't help when a novice is constantly told to update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest, update to the latest.

They don't know any better and why would they bother when so many knowledgeable people tell the to update but not warn about stuff like this? I'm constantly telling people to go back to previous Bios, GPU drivers, don't update apps on their mobile devices unless the update
1. Security Fixes
2. Adds a new feature they want
3. Fixes a bug or bugs they experience

I'm sick of people complaining about something that happens they dislike after they updated without checking details. This is no different yet you're saying that everyone should be reading every single update note. Yes they should but the fact is very little do. Just like the vast majority of people don't bother reading terms and conditions, agreements or other documents. They should BUT they don't. At least help by including something like 'You cannot update to a Bios earlier than 2004' in the update notes. It's not hardm they added it tto 2004 AFTER this thread, maybe others, were created and users complained