New bios 1602

[Hopper64]

New beta bios is out 9/27. Just FYI. Noted for my encore board. Have not checked other boards.

[inge70]

If it is ready for it. Just be patient.

[vultz]

i had the 14900k and was facing so many issues and instability in games like crashes.. and RMA would take a while so i purchased 14900ks and RMA the old 14900, they sent me a new one.

and still facing some instability in some games with the latest bios 1503.

all my hopes now with this latest bios that resolves all the issues and then i would sell the new 14900k

[inge70]

What do these instabilities look like and in which games do you have the problems?

not all problems can be traced back to a defective CPU. The reason Intel replaced the old CPU is only because they stopped testing it because there were too many problems with the I9s.
In the end, you got the same CPU again, just a new one BUT it will only be protected from future damage with the new BETA BIOS if no OC is used because there will be no new revisions of the CPUs, i.e. error-corrected versions. Intel simply gives out the CPUs that are still available for exchange. Done.
Therefore, your problems do not seem to have been completely resolved.
But as I wrote, it is not always the CPU.

A clear indication of a damaged CPU was previously seen in Unreal Engine 5 games that a VRAM error appeared during shader loading, saying that the GPU supposedly had too little VRAM. This error is what first brought the problems of the I9-13900 and i9-14900 to light and forced Intel to investigate.

So my question is, in which games do you have problems and what do the problems look like?

Have you set Intel standards in the UEFI/BIOS or are you using Asus AI OC?

What kind of hardware do you have exactly?

Do you use XMP for the RAM?

[vultz]

As of now.. doom eternal.. where if i set my power mode to power saving.. i wouldnt face any issues, but if i put it to balanced or any mode above that.. it crahses without any messages

[vultz]

i have amd rams... intel ones were out of stock back then.. 

[rick60411]

For the 14900K, you need to limit your CPU to 400 amps, and 253w for PL-1 and PL-2. 

• Turn off Asus enhanced multicore
• XMP-1
• SVID: Typical Scenario (NEVER "Intel Defaults")
• Disable ICCMAX Unlimited
• ICCMAX = 400A
• PL-1 and PL-2 to 253W
• Enable eTVB
• Enable TVB
• Enable TVB Voltage Optimizations
• Enable C-States and Enhanced C-States
• Turn off CEP
• Turn off Undervolt Protection.

For your Intel 14900KS, the same but ICCMAX=400A and PL--1 and PL-2 to 320w.  If you are still unstable?  Set this also.

• Set Performance Preference to 'ASUS advanced oc profile'
• Set Performance Core Limit to 'Sync all Core', and set All Core Ratio value to '59'

If still unstable:

• You might have to try a lower or higher LLC level.  Mine defaults to LLC 4 with my 14700K (Asus z790-E Gaming Wi-Fi II)

I hope this helps.  

[adrifoxbg]

And all of that undervolting lowers the performance of our CPU
I'm already at lower levels than my own bench scores.

How touching does that have to be?

[inge70]

Depending on the silicon/CPU quality, undervoltage can lead to a drop in performance. But this should only be very slight.
The core clock speeds specified by Intel (without OC) should be achieved, depending on how good the cooling is.

If you use the Cinebench values ​​for this, then it is clear that the values ​​will drop, because Cinebench is a synthetic test and does not reflect real everyday PC use. So you should only have minimal performance losses with Intel standard settings, unless you have previously used the Asus AI OC. Then it is clear that the values ​​will drop, because OC overrides the Intel specifications and is at your own risk (as it always has been).

[rick60411]

Well, choose one:

1.  Killer benchmark scores and dead (not cheap) CPU 

2.  Slightly lower scores and alive CPU.  

It sucks we have to compromise, and with the latest updates, Intel scores are getting lower than some AMD scores.  Intel took a while, but they did refund me for my dead 13900K.  At least they did something to turn the wrong into a right and they could have left those like me with dead CPU's and said, "Oh well.  Your problem."

Bad situation, but I have to give them props for at least taking responsibility.  Asus has been one of the first to implement the fixes.  Unfortunately, every "fix" seems to make our CPUs slower and slower.  

[inge70]

Let's put it this way: just because Cinebench values ​​are getting lower due to the latest microcode updates, that doesn't mean that the CPU is actually slower in everyday use, whether it's gaming or video encoding.
It's usually not noticeable, unless you only look at the FPS when gaming and are annoyed because you no longer have 500 FPS, but less.
But basically the new Intel specifications mean that the CPUs stay cooler but still reach the maximum clock speeds (AI-OC is excluded here) and yet do not degenerate excessively.

I haven't experienced any deterioration in my CPU, apart from a sharp drop in Cinebench values. Whether I have 300 FPS or just 200 FPS when gaming doesn't really matter to me. The main thing is that the game runs smoothly. The same goes for video encoding, it doesn't matter whether the video is finished in 1 minute or 30 seconds.

Just because AMD is now deservedly taking the crown everywhere, which was to be expected, that doesn't have to be the end.

You can currently see from AMD's prices what chaos Intel has caused. Everything is pointing upwards.

It's annoying when you still have problems with stability and various crashes despite having replaced the CPU and the latest UEFI/BIOS. You now have to check again what the cause is, especially if a CPU has already been replaced via RMA.

Another problem was that Intel continued to increase the clock speed of the cores with higher power consumption, and to such an extent that it is now affecting us all and causing problems.

Unfortunately, high clock speeds are not possible without increasing power, but Intel simply overdid it because they always wanted to be the crown for everything.

AMD is currently showing that it can also achieve top performance with lower clock speeds and power consumption. With the X3D CPUs, it is the 3D cache that declares the AMD CPUs to be the best CPU for gaming.

Time will tell whether and when Intel will get back to that level. But the GHz craze ultimately brought nothing.