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Maximus Z790 Extreme Persistent Qcode 55 "Detect Memory" issue

Duncan91
Level 9

Starting a post for some help with a detect memory issue I can't seem to solve.

Problem: Can't get past POST, persistently get Qcode 28, 54 and then hang on 55. Using latest (0904) Bios while writing this. Have swapped out RAM from my original kit (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K) to (F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK) as I initally thought it was faulty after remounting everything and trying all slots whilst isolating ram sticks. I have checked all pins and PCB tracks (specifically the ones to the right of the CPU around the mounting holes. No RAM slots provide a successful boot whether I use 1 or 2 sticks. I have tried rolling back BIOS and cycled between chips 1 and 2. I have tried safe boot, battery out, 60s CMOS hold reset, loosening CPU cooler mount screws, loosening Backplate screws and gradual tightening again whilst periodically clearing CMOS and booting.

RAM is always checked and checked again for a firm and correct seating.

Setup;
CPU: 13900K
MB: Maximus Z790 Extreme (0904)
RAM: F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK
GPU: Strix 4090
PSU: Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 1200
Cooling: CPU block Heatkiller IV with LGA1700 Heavy Backplate and washer mod (0.8mm), Heatkiller V Pro 4090 Strix

I'm running out of ideas. I appreciate the help, thank you.

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13900K @Stock / MZ790E / F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK / ASUS 4090 OC / SN850X 4TB X2 / Dark Power 1200 / 7000D Airflow / Heatkiller IV Pro CPU Block / Heatkiller V Pro GPU Block / Heatkiller D5 Tube / DP Ultra Green
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Duncan91
Level 9

Can I just confirm that the Intel ME firmware, advised by ASUS to be installed prior to a BIOS update is installed in the OS? As my issue prevents me to advance past POST I'm wondering how I can in fact load this Management Engine Firmware.

13900K @Stock / MZ790E / F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK / ASUS 4090 OC / SN850X 4TB X2 / Dark Power 1200 / 7000D Airflow / Heatkiller IV Pro CPU Block / Heatkiller V Pro GPU Block / Heatkiller D5 Tube / DP Ultra Green

Hopper64
Level 16

You are not going to know until it posts in the bios. I doubt the latest FW is installed currently, but I don't think that's the problem. I guess it could be since you flashed 0904 without knowing what FW version is present. I just think it unlikely.  Typically it's recommended to install the latest management engine in the OS first, then the FW, then the bios. You haven't been able to get that far yet. I know the feeling. Had the same issue.

MZ790AE Bios 1801, GSkill F5-8400J4052G24GX2-TR5S, 14900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.1 Noctua Edition, Asus Strix 4090 w/ HK block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Crucial T705, Windows 11 Pro

Duncan91
Level 9

I flashed because I hoped that a newer BIOS would support my high density kit F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK after originally having no post with F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K and believing it was the culprit. Would you suggest loading the factory BIOS, if so where can i find it online?

13900K @Stock / MZ790E / F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK / ASUS 4090 OC / SN850X 4TB X2 / Dark Power 1200 / 7000D Airflow / Heatkiller IV Pro CPU Block / Heatkiller V Pro GPU Block / Heatkiller D5 Tube / DP Ultra Green

Hopper64
Level 16

You could try that. It should be on the download site for the board.

MZ790AE Bios 1801, GSkill F5-8400J4052G24GX2-TR5S, 14900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.1 Noctua Edition, Asus Strix 4090 w/ HK block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Crucial T705, Windows 11 Pro

Hopper64
Level 16

Looks like 0502 is on the site.

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-z790-extreme-model/helpdesk_bios/

It may have shipped with version 08xx though. Hard to know.

MZ790AE Bios 1801, GSkill F5-8400J4052G24GX2-TR5S, 14900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.1 Noctua Edition, Asus Strix 4090 w/ HK block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Crucial T705, Windows 11 Pro

Duncan91
Level 9

Hi Hopper, I've already tried 0502. I thought perhaps there was a version prior this.

13900K @Stock / MZ790E / F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK / ASUS 4090 OC / SN850X 4TB X2 / Dark Power 1200 / 7000D Airflow / Heatkiller IV Pro CPU Block / Heatkiller V Pro GPU Block / Heatkiller D5 Tube / DP Ultra Green

Hopper64
Level 16

I don't know if there was, but if you tried that then you have exhausted that possibility. I don't think 0502 required a FW update.

MZ790AE Bios 1801, GSkill F5-8400J4052G24GX2-TR5S, 14900KS, EKWB D5 TBE 300, Seasonic Prime TX-1600 ATX 3.1 Noctua Edition, Asus Strix 4090 w/ HK block, Phanteks Enthoo Elite, Asus Claymore 2, Asus Gladius 3, Asus XG349C, Crucial T705, Windows 11 Pro

Duncan91
Level 9

Just to clarify guys, I’m reading quite a lot about channels A1 & B1 falling over due to contact pressure or tracer track damage. However if all 4 slots, both channels fail to be recognised and the RAM kit is ruled out as not being faulty would that indicate a faulty memory controller? POST codes for CPU pass but RAM codes fail (Qcode 55)? 

There is NO damage on the motherboard, it’s brand new and it’s been tested in factory config, with the washer mod and the contact plate mod. All yield no success.

13900K @Stock / MZ790E / F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK / ASUS 4090 OC / SN850X 4TB X2 / Dark Power 1200 / 7000D Airflow / Heatkiller IV Pro CPU Block / Heatkiller V Pro GPU Block / Heatkiller D5 Tube / DP Ultra Green

Hello,

Contact issues will typically manifest either intermittently or for a particular slot. If no success after attempting to remount or even with a third party contact frame it would suggest the fault is either with the CPU or motherboard.

9800X3D / 6400 CAS 28 / ROG X870 Crosshair / TUF RTX 4090

Cheers Silent_Scone, as I said, I look forward to swap out the CPU on order to fix it and or rule it out and then start with the motherboard RMA. I will update with my findings 

13900K @Stock / MZ790E / F5-6800J3446F48GX2-TZ5RK / ASUS 4090 OC / SN850X 4TB X2 / Dark Power 1200 / 7000D Airflow / Heatkiller IV Pro CPU Block / Heatkiller V Pro GPU Block / Heatkiller D5 Tube / DP Ultra Green