07-23-2024 12:37 AM - edited 10-02-2024 12:23 AM
September 25th Update:
Beta BIOS Links (microcode 0x12B)
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Intel has identified four (4) operating scenarios that can lead to Vmin shift in affected processors:
Regarding the 0x12B update, Intel is working with its partners to roll out the relevant BIOS update to the public.
Intel’s internal testing comparing 0x12B microcode to 0x125 microcode – on Intel® Core™ i9-14900K with DDR5 5200MT/s memory1 - indicates performance impact is within run-to-run variation (ie. Cinebench* R23, Speedometer*, WebXPRT4*, Crossmark*). For gaming workloads on Intel® Core™ i9-14900K with DDR5 5600MT/s memory2, performance is also within run-to-run variation (ie. Shadow of the Tomb Raider*, Cyberpunk* 2077, Hitman 3: Dartmoor*, Total War: Warhammer III – Mirrors of Madness*). However, system performance is dependent on configuration and several other factors.
Intel® reaffirms that both Intel® Core™ 13th and 14th Gen mobile processors and future client product families – including the codename Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake families - are unaffected by the Vmin Shift Instability issue. We appreciate our customers’ patience throughout the investigation, as well as our partners’ support in the analysis and relevant mitigations.
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August 2024
Hi all,
This update will be pinned here for clarity on the ongoing situation with some 13th and 14th-gen CPUs experiencing instability exhibited at stock.
Intel has issued the following statement (07/22/2024)
Based on extensive analysis of Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors returned to us due to instability issues, we have determined that elevated operating voltage is causing instability issues in some 13th/14th Gen desktop processors. Our analysis of returned processors confirms that the elevated operating voltage is stemming from a microcode algorithm resulting in incorrect voltage requests to the processor.
Intel is delivering a microcode patch which addresses the root cause of exposure to elevated voltages. We are continuing validation to ensure that scenarios of instability reported to Intel regarding its Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors are addressed. Intel is currently targeting mid-August for patch release to partners following full validation.
Intel is committed to making this right with our customers, and we continue asking any customers currently experiencing instability issues on their Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors reach out to Intel Customer Support for further assistance.
For CPUs that exhibit unstable behaviour
Ensure you're on the latest BIOS for your motherboard
Update your motherboard BIOS to the latest revision containing microcode 0x125. Whilst this ucode revision does not resolve the issue, Intel has clarified that it contains fixes within microcode pertinent to Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost (ETVB) behaviour that results in unexpected boost behaviour under certain thermal conditions.
Use Intel Base Profiles
The latest BIOS for your motherboard should contain Performance Preference options for Intel Base profiles. Ensure Intel Default Settings is selected. If using a 13th-Gen or 14th Gen i9 processor, choose Profile Performance.
If not selected already, ensure that SVID Behaviour is set to Intel Fail Safe
My CPU is running hotter using Intel Base Profiles than Asus Optimised, is this normal?
Yes, it can be normal for your CPU to run hotter than usual when using Intel base profiles. This occurs because following Intel's guidelines more closely often results in higher core voltages under certain workloads. Previously, motherboard vendors set the Load-Line Calibration (LLC) lower than Intel's recommendations to achieve lower temperatures while still delivering high performance. However, depending on your motherboard adhering to Intel's guidelines can lead to increased voltages whilst operating within Intel's current limits. This can result in higher operating temperatures depending on the workload.
Disable XMP
XMP is considered overclocking. To eliminate overclocking instability XMP should be disabled if experiencing crashing or unstable behaviour. Be sure to retest the behaviour at DRAM defaults.
Evaluate Cooling
Ensure your CPU cooling is working within the expected realms. If still experiencing instability under the conditions described above, consider reapplying the thermal application and removing any third-party CPU contact frames which may impact signal integrity.
Is my CPU damaged?
If still experiencing instability at Optimised Defaults [Intel - Performance / Extreme Profile] with XMP overclocking disabled, you will need to contact Intel.
I've read there was a fabrication issue with oxidisation, Intel has confirmed it.
This issue is unrelated to the ETVB behaviour and firmware and is a physical defect. Currently, Intel has gone on record to state that a number of 13th-generation CPUs from 2023 are potentially impacted by this issue
10-29-2024 09:46 AM
No worries, you will be updated here 🙂
10-29-2024 10:17 AM
Well, I want to hold my protective hand over asus. But I had faulty MSI and ASRock Mainboards. Quality control is no longer what it was. Also Asus didn't do anything right (melting cpus and so on). BUT we don't have to forget, that Intel is the one to blame for 13th and 14th gen. We all bought a product, that no longer lives up to its promises. Intel wanted to take the crown - no matter what it costs - and now, consumers have to look after this. Don't want to tell, that amd did everything right. In my opinion, Intel has learned that it can no longer carry on like this. In my eyes that's why to new cpus are so worst in benchmarks. Intel is now being overly cautious. In my opinion you wouldn't survive another scandal. I'm doing fine with my asus mainboard. Asus did a quick response and bios updates and try their best. But in my eyes, they are from now on limited (by intel - and their specifications). Next year I'll be loyal to asus (rog) - but I'll give amd a try. Maybe best match with an 9000ers series with x3d.
10-30-2024 12:33 AM
https://imgur.com/a/TxNqori
there you go buddy you’re proof
10-30-2024 02:34 AM
I think someone else is going to have to try and explain to you what I'm asking. No disrespect, might be a language barrier.
This is just the Gigabyte BIOS GUI again, like you showed previously. Perhaps explain to your friend what C1E's function is, and show him how to demonstrate it's actually disabled.
10-30-2024 02:44 AM
You're hilarious why you even support them for making your CPU run slower just to cover their stuff while they run over users just to claim they mobos runs cooler, not for me and maybe they just need to see the court , because the Baseline is 3.2GHZ not 800MHZ and i have a proof that runs slower aggressively, this C1E shouldn't work that aggressive and even if it turned on only one core for my friend with AORUS mobo goes to 800MHZ and if it disabled it won't work at all, You're proof is here you just don't want to believe that, if you're ok with letting Asus run over you fine, I'm not, and I'm not gonna be silent about that, I have OC gaming PC not power saving mode PC right? they can't force me to use any power saving mode, it does run stable for a year so why now? while other vendors won't do it ASUS just claim it's intel fault again, yeah like they did with the unlimited ICCMAX and PL and other stuff that runs your CPU over voltage, and yeah like the AC stuff that runs with 1mOhm or even more, have fun buddy now from unlimited they go to other side to limited your cpu I wont accept that, that's not why I spent my money for, for enhanced power saving mode PC, I'm done.
10-29-2024 09:20 PM - edited 10-29-2024 09:24 PM
there you go another dude with Msi mobo he also can disable this enhanced c-states but maybe But you might want an investigative file to believe 😂
https://youtu.be/S2LJz_4F_Gw?si=o0pDKg3HkMuFsKDr
10-29-2024 09:45 PM
After 1 month still ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 Bios 3901 Beta Version
not out of beta
10-30-2024 06:10 AM
For me, 14900K and Asus motherboard (Z790-E), was a huge disappointment. Especially Intel sell out this CPU as "best gaming CPU" -which combined with RTX 4080- in fact it's worst. Why? Because my CPU runing 65-70 celsius while playing WoW, after last two BIOS updates now i'm having micro stutter in games and even i scroll PDF documents while on desktop and no other program or game runing. I'm not a overclocker, also i don't have to dig settings for CPU works fine with every single BIOS updates. I bought my setup for gaming, next time won't go with Asus mobo and Intel CPU for sure.
Also i wanna ask how will i know if my CPU degraded? I'll put here a screenshot taken from Asus Armoury Crate, which shows me 4833MHz CPU frequency. Shouldn't it be 5700MHz? Or it just shows me average MHz of all cores? Thanks.
10-30-2024 07:08 AM
ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO
Does this work for the Maximus HERO XI?
Does this also fix the issue with all teh unreal games crashing?
And when will there be an official release?