07-23-2024 12:37 AM - edited 10-02-2024 12:23 AM
September 25th Update:
Beta BIOS Links (microcode 0x12B)
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Z760
Intel has identified four (4) operating scenarios that can lead to Vmin shift in affected processors:
Regarding the 0x12B update, Intel is working with its partners to roll out the relevant BIOS update to the public.
Intel’s internal testing comparing 0x12B microcode to 0x125 microcode – on Intel® Core™ i9-14900K with DDR5 5200MT/s memory1 - indicates performance impact is within run-to-run variation (ie. Cinebench* R23, Speedometer*, WebXPRT4*, Crossmark*). For gaming workloads on Intel® Core™ i9-14900K with DDR5 5600MT/s memory2, performance is also within run-to-run variation (ie. Shadow of the Tomb Raider*, Cyberpunk* 2077, Hitman 3: Dartmoor*, Total War: Warhammer III – Mirrors of Madness*). However, system performance is dependent on configuration and several other factors.
Intel® reaffirms that both Intel® Core™ 13th and 14th Gen mobile processors and future client product families – including the codename Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake families - are unaffected by the Vmin Shift Instability issue. We appreciate our customers’ patience throughout the investigation, as well as our partners’ support in the analysis and relevant mitigations.
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August 2024
Hi all,
This update will be pinned here for clarity on the ongoing situation with some 13th and 14th-gen CPUs experiencing instability exhibited at stock.
Intel has issued the following statement (07/22/2024)
Based on extensive analysis of Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors returned to us due to instability issues, we have determined that elevated operating voltage is causing instability issues in some 13th/14th Gen desktop processors. Our analysis of returned processors confirms that the elevated operating voltage is stemming from a microcode algorithm resulting in incorrect voltage requests to the processor.
Intel is delivering a microcode patch which addresses the root cause of exposure to elevated voltages. We are continuing validation to ensure that scenarios of instability reported to Intel regarding its Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors are addressed. Intel is currently targeting mid-August for patch release to partners following full validation.
Intel is committed to making this right with our customers, and we continue asking any customers currently experiencing instability issues on their Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors reach out to Intel Customer Support for further assistance.
For CPUs that exhibit unstable behaviour
Ensure you're on the latest BIOS for your motherboard
Update your motherboard BIOS to the latest revision containing microcode 0x125. Whilst this ucode revision does not resolve the issue, Intel has clarified that it contains fixes within microcode pertinent to Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost (ETVB) behaviour that results in unexpected boost behaviour under certain thermal conditions.
Use Intel Base Profiles
The latest BIOS for your motherboard should contain Performance Preference options for Intel Base profiles. Ensure Intel Default Settings is selected. If using a 13th-Gen or 14th Gen i9 processor, choose Profile Performance.
If not selected already, ensure that SVID Behaviour is set to Intel Fail Safe
My CPU is running hotter using Intel Base Profiles than Asus Optimised, is this normal?
Yes, it can be normal for your CPU to run hotter than usual when using Intel base profiles. This occurs because following Intel's guidelines more closely often results in higher core voltages under certain workloads. Previously, motherboard vendors set the Load-Line Calibration (LLC) lower than Intel's recommendations to achieve lower temperatures while still delivering high performance. However, depending on your motherboard adhering to Intel's guidelines can lead to increased voltages whilst operating within Intel's current limits. This can result in higher operating temperatures depending on the workload.
Disable XMP
XMP is considered overclocking. To eliminate overclocking instability XMP should be disabled if experiencing crashing or unstable behaviour. Be sure to retest the behaviour at DRAM defaults.
Evaluate Cooling
Ensure your CPU cooling is working within the expected realms. If still experiencing instability under the conditions described above, consider reapplying the thermal application and removing any third-party CPU contact frames which may impact signal integrity.
Is my CPU damaged?
If still experiencing instability at Optimised Defaults [Intel - Performance / Extreme Profile] with XMP overclocking disabled, you will need to contact Intel.
I've read there was a fabrication issue with oxidisation, Intel has confirmed it.
This issue is unrelated to the ETVB behaviour and firmware and is a physical defect. Currently, Intel has gone on record to state that a number of 13th-generation CPUs from 2023 are potentially impacted by this issue
10-01-2024 11:14 AM
Hi everyone,
For information : https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/intel-700-600-series/raptorlake-resources/m-p/1046625/highlight/true#M...
@MoKiChU wrote:
Hi everyone,
ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-HERO-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO EVA EDITION : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-HERO-EVA-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-FORMULA-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-EXTREME-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-EXTREME-GLACIAL-ASUS-3901.zipROG STRIX Z690-I GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-Z690-I-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-Z690-A-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-Z690-A-GAMING-WIFI-D4-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-Z690-G-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-Z690-F-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-Z690-E-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3901.zip
ROG STRIX B660-I GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-B660-I-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3410.zip
ROG STRIX B660-G GAMING WIFI D4 : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-B660-G-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3410.zip
ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-B660-A-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3410.zip
ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4 : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-B660-A-GAMING-WIFI-D4-ASUS-3410.zip
ROG STRIX B660-F GAMING WIFI : https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/ROG-STRIX-B660-F-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-3410.zip
10-01-2024 03:32 PM
For those who own a TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI or TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI D4 and would like to try the Beta version of 1666
TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/TUF-GAMING-Z790-PLUS-WIFI-ASUS-1666.zip
TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI D4
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/BIOS/TUF-GAMING-Z790-PLUS-WIFI-D4-ASUS-1666.zip
10-01-2024 11:20 PM
I have the first board but will wait for the final release
10-02-2024 03:40 AM
Does the 3901 BIOS for Z690 Hero have a fix for the profile selection bug?
10-03-2024 01:20 AM - edited 10-03-2024 01:22 AM
Most probably no. Keep in mind that it's a beta one which means (in my opinion) that right now they are focusing on microcode 0x12B rather than addressing all other minor issues compared to that
10-02-2024 11:18 AM - edited 10-11-2024 02:20 PM
Tried 3901 on my Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi D4 (13600k) and there appears to be something like an IccMax 200A set regardless if all limits removed. HWinfo reports the higher values I try like 250A but the processor core speed running CB23 goes down to 4900 (only pulling 163W). HWinfo also reports hitting the limit on IccMax as the reason for the throttling.
Switching back to 2305 with the same settings and the problem goes away.
Edit: reinstalled the ME driver and it fixed the issue.
10-04-2024 02:19 AM
How about checking "IA CEP" options ? Is this enable ?
10-04-2024 03:51 AM
Thanks for the reply, they are disabled.
10-04-2024 09:34 AM
Hmm?
The CPU connector frame confuses many people with z690 and z790...
They want to say they are exactly the same but not. If you use contact ram z690 on a motherboard z790 then you get memory problems on mem test via bioset or occt. If you run connector ram z790 on a z690 it works. Be very careful not to screw it too tight or loose somewhere in between so then everything will work 75% depending on which foil hat is on?
10-04-2024 06:57 PM
Hi @patricpaassiltt , I am sorry I am not understanding your message above. What are you trying alert about?
What connector frame, contact ram thing are you referring in your message here?
The CPU connector frame confuses many people with z690 and z790...
They want to say they are exactly the same but not. If you use contact ram z690 on a motherboard z790 then you get memory problems on mem test via bioset or occt. If you run connector ram z790 on a z690 it works. Be very careful not to screw it too tight or loose somewhere in between so then everything will work 75% depending on which foil hat is on?