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Strix Z590-A - BIOS 0704 to 0707 performance hit

chrismog2_2
Level 7
Hello -

I'm noticing a performance drop since upgrading my Strix Z590-A BIOS from 0704 (beta) to 0707 with my i9-11900K. All settings the same (XMP enabled, ABT on, MCE on) as far as I can tell. On 0704, the chip would boost to all-core 5 GHz and temps would be in the low to mid 80C during a Cinebench R23 test. On 0707, it's floating between 4.7-4.8 GHz all core, and temps topping out at 70-71C, almost like that's the new thermal limit. Has the boosting behavior and/or the MCE parameters changed between these BIOS versions? Outside of a manual OC, anything I can look at to return it to previous behavior? Thanks.
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Shamino wrote:
Fixed in this bios

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5mwdpgcpwnhfci5/ROG-STRIX-Z590-F-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/atcgaa3jqglpkn6/ROG-STRIX-Z590-E-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zd85k0uy1yg3ewg/ROG-STRIX-Z590-A-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/seg5fuchr9y63os/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-HERO-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zpgii491l919br/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9yy556orv17h04/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-EXTREME-ASUS-0901.rar?dl=0

Also Adds OCTVB for RKL
Guide:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hz7laveryk4bbwo645a54/rkl_octvb.docx?dl=0&rlkey=f55vy6z360xcmorii2xv3...


Tested it out for my board (the Strix Z590-A) and it does work properly now with XMP settings + ABT set to "Enabled". There is an Auto setting on ABT now which doesn't appear to do anything.

Were any other performance tweaks added in to this BIOS? It could just be my imagination but it looks a bit more aggressive at keeping under that 90C temperature threshold specified by Asus MCE (considering both ABT and MCE are enabled, I'm not surprised and expected that behavior though). Different day, different ambient temps, so like I said it could just be me...

Thanks!!

biship
Level 7
Thanks!
Release notes?

Is this an official release?

Shamino
Moderator
bios spent a lot of effort to do a good octvb implementation, be sure to check it out

Shamino wrote:
bios spent a lot of effort to do a good octvb implementation, be sure to check it out


Is the Per Core OC still broken?

Shamino
Moderator
ive never seen the brokenness you are talking about
keep things simple and just set the minimal options , 1 active core A ratio, 2 active cores b ratio etc, dont set a tonne of other things. is it still "broken"?

Shamino wrote:
ive never seen the brokenness you are talking about
keep things simple and just set the minimal options , 1 active core A ratio, 2 active cores b ratio etc, dont set a tonne of other things. is it still "broken"?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84onNce0xo
Here's a video showing the behavior of it and the settings used in the description. And yes, its still broken on 0801, i haven't tried 0901 yet. Kinda want to be sure its working before updating so i don't have to re-do all my memory/oc settings.

Also i'm on Rocket Lake, a fixed individual core multiplier is supposed to work regardless of how many cores are active.

Shamino
Moderator
i think you are mistaking specific cores with by core usage
no, they complement each other, active cores matter and specific core ratio limit matters
if your active core config is 53/53/51/51/50/50/49/49, even if your core x ratio is 80x it will still be tops 53x in light loads
you cannot expect me to tell what your bios settings are from a video of hwinfo

Shamino wrote:
i think you are mistaking specific cores with by core usage
no, they complement each other, active cores matter and specific core ratio limit matters
if your active core config is 53/53/51/51/50/50/49/49, even if your core x ratio is 80x it will still be tops 53x in light loads
you cannot expect me to tell what your bios settings are from a video of hwinfo


All the bios info needed is in the video description as i mentioned in my comment above.

In Rocket Lake each core now has its own PLL which allows independent core clocks to be set on each core regardless of how many are active so i'm not entirely sure what you mean? I can record another video showing the bios and its settings if the info in the description isn't enough, but yeah it either doesn't work as its supposed to or maybe i'm doing something wrong.

yahfz wrote:

In Rocket Lake each core now has its own PLL which allows independent core clocks to be set on each core regardless of how many are active .


yes for the first but no to the second
there are 2 constraints you can set and are already being set:

ratios by active cores
individual core ratio limits

they are enforced to the most conservative sense
if your 5 core active ratio LIMIT is 50x even if core X ratio LIMIT is 56x, it will still run at 50x if 5 cores are active
how does it make sense to tell the cpu "limit my core ratios to 50x if 5 cores are active" and "limit my core X Ratio to 56x" and expect core x to be 56x when the first statement is true?
LIMIT is the key word here if in a situation A and B are true, then the lower number is the LIMIT, it makes perfect sense so.
what do you want to achieve? its very easy, if you want just each core to run a certain ratio regardless of core usage do this:

set by core usage to the maximum of whatever you want the best core to run at.
example 55x:
so set 55/55/55/55 /55/55/55/55

then set specific core ratio limits to whatever you want core X to run at , example:

core0: 55x
core1:54x
core2: 53x
etc

thats it
in other words you are ignoring active core use and just limiting by specific cores.