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Shamino · ‎05-21-2020

Braegnok · ‎01-21-2021

@Morph
Did you get your GPU block installed, how's the temps on your card vs stock cooler.

I just pre-ordered the Special Edition Quantum Vector FE block, is expected to ship out in early March. Search results for: 'EK-Quantum Vector FE RTX 3090 D-RGB - Special Edition' â€“ EK Webshop (ekwb.com...

I'll run some benchmarks with Optimus block vs Quantum Vector when it arrives, will be selling the looser.

morph_ · ‎01-21-2021

Braegnok wrote:
@Morph
Did you get your GPU block installed, how's the temps on your card vs stock cooler.

I just pre-ordered the Special Edition Quantum Vector FE block, is expected to ship out in early March. Search results for: 'EK-Quantum Vector FE RTX 3090 D-RGB - Special Edition' Ã¢â‚¬â€œ EK Webshop (ekw...

I'll run some benchmarks with Optimus block vs Quantum Vector when it arrives, will be selling the looser.

Yep it is on and did this in TS: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/17560878 & this in PR: http://www.3dmark.com/pr/794307

Urm.. warzone tonight it was hitting around 43-45 degrees with 22-23 ambient water temps was hitting around 36 degs. Stock cooler runs that at around 55-60 degrees (max fans).

Braegnok · ‎01-21-2021

Vary nice!,.. The minimal RGB, Distro plate is looking sweet!

Your GPU block connection terminals are different than on the FE block, I like how they supply a set of terminals for conventional or direct connection.

Do you have clearance for swapping out memory modules.

morph_ · ‎01-21-2021

Braegnok wrote:
Vary nice!,.. The minimal RGB, Distro plate is looking sweet!

Your GPU block connection terminals are different than on the FE block, I like how they supply a set of terminals for conventional or direct connection.

Do you have clearance for swapping out memory modules.

Thanks Nah I left enough clearance to beable to install and uninstall diff kits of memory.

Braegnok · ‎04-28-2021

morph. wrote:
Yep it is on and did this in TS: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/17560878 & this in PR: http://www.3dmark.com/pr/794307

Urm.. warzone tonight it was hitting around 43-45 degrees with 22-23 ambient water temps was hitting around 36 degs. Stock cooler runs that at around 55-60 degrees (max fans).

I finally installed the Quantum Vector FE block, and also added in Monarch X4 on the memory.

Running 4x8GB kit with the Monarch blocks, so far memory does not go above 40c, regardless of ambient air temps, or voltages.

Went with Thermal Grizzly pads on the memory instead of stock blue pads, and used Kronaut on the top of modules before setting on block.

n1kobg · ‎01-26-2021

morph. wrote:
I suspect your IO-L's are too tight/low for stability try loosening them up to around 7.

Also increasing dram VTT to 0.755v - 0.8v could help with out needing such high vdimm.

No, Im a competitive gamer & these help with responsiveness & hitreg. For 7 you dont need much tweaking. the trick is to get them as low & as thight as possible to each-other so if its stable why should I touch them. Also I change the bios profiles constantly. The iol offsets does need slightly higher voltage, yes but 1.53 is perfectly fine, especially with a fan on top. Intel docs recommend below 1.65v for the mem. controler. I wonder whether Mem.controler & IO PLLs helps here? WHat do u think.

morph_ · ‎01-26-2021

n1kobg wrote:
No, Im a competitive gamer & these help with responsiveness & hitreg. For 7 you dont need much tweaking. the trick is to get them as low & as thight as possible to each-other so if its stable why should I touch them. Also I change the bios profiles constantly. The iol offsets does need slightly higher voltage, yes but 1.53 is perfectly fine, especially with a fan on top. Intel docs recommend below 1.65v for the mem. controler. I wonder whether Mem.controler & IO PLLs helps here? WHat do u think.

From what I know & tried for certain with 3 different kits (2x16 3466c16, 4x8 3600c16 & 2x16 3600c14), even at IOL 5/6 you will likely fail MOST stability tests and you are running IOL of 4/3... An IOL of 7 is deemed very tight and is the magic number for stability & performance. 6 is generally a longshot and usually introduces instability/errors from testing. Especially with a non-maximuus board. I'm curious as to what your definition of the stable is? What/how are you testing to define stable? P95? OCCT? TM5 Anta? etc...

With active cooling on your memory, I agree your vdimm of 1.53v is fine. Still, you could probably run lower if you increased your vtt. You could also look at tweaking your skew settings (not sure if Strix boards allow this) this will help to stabilise the system a great deal and lower the voltage requirements for vdimm/sa/io.

Oh and from a bandwidth point of view, your tertiaries can use a bit of tightening up which should give it a nice bump.

n1kobg · ‎01-30-2021

morph. wrote:
From what I know & tried for certain with 3 different kits (2x16 3466c16, 4x8 3600c16 & 2x16 3600c14), even at IOL 5/6 you will likely fail MOST stability tests and you are running IOL of 4/3... An IOL of 7 is deemed very tight and is the magic number for stability & performance. 6 is generally a longshot and usually introduces instability/errors from testing. Especially with a non-maximuus board. I'm curious as to what your definition of the stable is? What/how are you testing to define stable? P95? OCCT? TM5 Anta? etc...

With active cooling on your memory, I agree your vdimm of 1.53v is fine. Still, you could probably run lower if you increased your vtt. You could also look at tweaking your skew settings (not sure if Strix boards allow this) this will help to stabilise the system a great deal and lower the voltage requirements for vdimm/sa/io.

Oh and from a bandwidth point of view, your tertiaries can use a bit of tightening up which should give it a nice bump.

I use HyperPi on 16m & 32m (sometimes it gives 1error on 32m) & Memtest64 over night. Also use OCCT & Aida. I agree its a bit agressive & not 100% stable but thats enough for my gaming profile. It most likely wont pass LinX. About my 3rd timings, I can lower some with 2-3 ticks but will increase the voltage & ruin the balance and will have to adjust the other timings. Lowering within this voltage doesnt give me more performance. Its 1.53 for extra stability, otherwise its stable on around 1.51. If i lower the 3rd timings it will go close to 1.6. BTW I did increase vtt to 0.7500. Havent stress tested yet.

morph_ · ‎01-31-2021

n1kobg wrote:
I use HyperPi on 16m & 32m (sometimes it gives 1error on 32m) & Memtest64 over night. Also use OCCT & Aida. I agree its a bit agressive & not 100% stable but thats enough for my gaming profile. It most likely wont pass LinX. About my 3rd timings, I can lower some with 2-3 ticks but will increase the voltage & ruin the balance and will have to adjust the other timings. Lowering within this voltage doesnt give me more performance. Its 1.53 for extra stability, otherwise its stable on around 1.51. If i lower the 3rd timings it will go close to 1.6. BTW I did increase vtt to 0.7500. Havent stress tested yet.

Rule of thumb for VTT on auto is HALF of vdimm. You basically undervolted it there with 0.75v (making it equivalent to 1.5vdimm) with your 1.53vdimm. Id recommend something like 0.79vtt 🙂

By increasing your tertiary timings a bit more it will help boost read-write copy bandwidths a fair bit.

n1kobg · ‎02-02-2021

morph. wrote:
Rule of thumb for VTT on auto is HALF of vdimm. You basically undervolted it there with 0.75v (making it equivalent to 1.5vdimm) with your 1.53vdimm. Id recommend something like 0.79vtt 🙂

By increasing your tertiary timings a bit more it will help boost read-write copy bandwidths a fair bit.

Im aware of that but like I said, no difference on this voltage, when increase o/i on 11 it reduces my latency with 2ms. I also crashed when tried to upload these screens with these timings. I already have tested the 3rds but wanted to give you screenshots. it doesnt giveme any indication of improvement. I can lower tRFC to 260-280 but introduces instability. its fine in gaming though. BTW on 4400mhz Id imagine I would get similar read-writes. Your copys are good.

ps. IDK why this forum has problem with my screenshots?!

https://gyazo.com/53ba9c3fe5ca2f7db8c4df56b87a26f3

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