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Janne-71
Level 7
Hi, i was thinking upgrading my ram (ddr4) from 8gb to 16gb, but then i saw thread that said you don't really need more than 8 if you do just gaming and everyday browsing. Yet if i play games i see they use ram like ...upto 5gb and also pagefile is used.

If i updated to 16gb would there be enough memory so no need for pagefile use anymore? Would it make my computer faster? Or would i even notice any difference in real life use....

Also, i have now 2x4gb of ddr4, if i update i have to buy exactly same set right? Same xmp profile etc. and i should be fine.
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Janne-71
Level 7
One more question, is there benefit buying g.skill tridenz 2x8gb 3200mhz ram vs. kingston 2x8 2666mhz ram? Would faster memory mean possibly more issues? That g.skill ram is on qvl list though.

Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
In most day to day computing you would notice no difference between 2666 and 3200. Mostly difference would show in benchmarks and maybe video encoding or image rendering.

The higher the frequency the more likely you are to have problems yes, however I would fully expect 3200 to be no issue on that platform from what I have seen...the law of averages would be with you ....they would be even more with you at 2666 of course but we're talking the difference between 95% and 97% if you know what I mean

Disclaimer: (percentages wholly made up for example...may or may not reflect actual percentages) 🙂

Menthol
Level 14
The Hero 8 or any ASUS ROG board is very good with high speed memory, the higher binned Trident Z kits are as good as it gets and memory prices are very low right now, my personal opinion would be to get the highest binned kit in your price range, even if you end up running it at a lower speed than it is rated for you would probably have more headroom and less problems, it all comes down to the memory controller on you CPU but 3200 on the Z-170 platform is relatively easy

Menthol wrote:
The Hero 8 or any ASUS ROG board is very good with high speed memory, the higher binned Trident Z kits are as good as it gets and memory prices are very low right now, my personal opinion would be to get the highest binned kit in your price range, even if you end up running it at a lower speed than it is rated for you would probably have more headroom and less problems, it all comes down to the memory controller on you CPU but 3200 on the Z-170 platform is relatively easy

Yep i ended up ordering g.skill trident z 2x8gb 3200mhz set, just have to sell the old one. Relatively easy you say, meaning the xmp profile it has should work without extra hassle?

Jagdseelen
Level 8
G-skill and ASUS seldom have problems at XMP settings.

NemesisChild
Level 12
You can try the XMP profile, but 3200MHz may require manual bios tweaking.
Intel i9 10850K@ 5.3GHz
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-E
Corsair H115i Pro XT
G.Skill TridentZ@ 3600MHz CL14 2x16GB
EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FWT3 Ultra
OS: WD Black SN850 1TB NVMe M.2
Storage: WD Blue SN550 2TB NVMe M.2
EVGA SuperNova 1200 P2
ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601

NemesisChild wrote:
You can try the XMP profile, but 3200MHz may require manual bios tweaking.

Seems you have exact same memory i ordered NemesisChild, how did you have tweak it? I have no clue about bios memory tweaking, i did some overclocking though.

Janne-71 wrote:
Seems you have exact same memory i ordered NemesisChild, how did you have tweak it? I have no clue about bios memory tweaking, i did some overclocking though.


Manually input the frequency, base timings, and DRAM voltage.
You can even input a command rate of 1T.
All other memory settings can be left at default or auto.

Since the IMC is on the CPU, your overclock mileage will vary.
If stability can't be achieved, you may have to tweak the SA and VCCIO voltages (mine are on auto).
Intel i9 10850K@ 5.3GHz
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-E
Corsair H115i Pro XT
G.Skill TridentZ@ 3600MHz CL14 2x16GB
EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FWT3 Ultra
OS: WD Black SN850 1TB NVMe M.2
Storage: WD Blue SN550 2TB NVMe M.2
EVGA SuperNova 1200 P2
ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601

Janne-71
Level 7
OK i got the new g-skill ram today, when i enabled xmp(3200 mhz) and put dram frequency on auto at bios, dram frequency was set to 2133 mhz(!). I manually set it to 3200 then...and Computer didn't boot at all. So i used the clear-cmos button and tried 2666mhz which is working it seems. Is 3200mhz too much for my pc then, or maybe it needs extra tweaking. meh.

Jagdseelen
Level 8
Have you tried upgrading the voltage to 1.38?