I'm frustrated with my new build! Help please!

[Lugh_Azreak]

My family owns a computer supply/repair shop, and supplies internet to 3 states. I'm very frustrated and highly embarrassed that I can't run anything with my new build! My last resort is to ask them for help. Last week I got help from HiVizMan, and we've fixed all but the worst problem: something is preventing Windows from operating properly. I can't install some programs, I can't get the drivers (Windows or GPU) I need to work, and my video card keeps crashing. I've installed UDK and opened the program, but it blue screens when you mess with it. I'm willing to skype with a techie if you think you can help, but remember I'm in Saudi Arabia, that's almost exactly the opposite time zone from America.

I named my computer Zeus. Here's the build:
64 Bit Windows 7 Ultimate, Rampage IV Extreme motherboard, 2 sets of 4x4GBs of G. Skill Ripjaws Z series 19200 PC3 RAM (that's 2400MHz by the way), Western Digital 2TB 6GB/s HDD, Intel I7 Extreme 3930K Step C2 Processor (from the UK), Noctua NH-D14 Cooling unit, Silverstone Strider 1500W PSU, and the AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 Graphics Card... not the oc edition.

Thanks in advance.

[Lugh_Azreak]

7 1 001a0ef7258-6670.9MB aaa22f22 8aa22f22 20000000 42 (2:15:12)
7 1 001f0e3c160-7950.2MB a9147084 89147084 20000000 43 (2:15:18)
7 1 0023075c4e0-8967.3MB 32e0a647 12e0a647 20000000 44 (2:20:45)
7 1 002e4b5e1f8-11851.3MB 76cc9780 66cc9780 10000000 45 (2:28:37)

I'm pretty sure this RAM is of the wrong latency. I was told before by... I just now recieved error 45. It's unique because of the error bit difference, all other 44 errors have been 2 bits off while this is only 1 bit off. It seems like a significant difference to me but I'm no expert

[Lugh_Azreak]

Sorry I was distracted. I was saying that this RAM I believe is 11-11-11 something, but most reccomended RAM for the Rampage 4 Extreme begins with 9-11-11 something. However, I asked G.Skill if this RAM was compatible and they reassured me but I'm not so sure, since I've had months of troubles with it.

I'm not going to bother writing the times anymore because they come too fast to be accurate. Actually, I'm just going to watch the results and record the odd error bits. So far I have now 2 errors with 10000000 under the Err-Bits lable.

[Zka17]

Well, I don't think it worth to record/post the errors... if there are errors, it's meaning that something is wrong... I think, you should try an other memory kit...

[Lugh_Azreak]

Zka17, I've already replaced the Video card, I'd hate to have to downsize the RAM too. I'll call G.Skill with these results and see what they have to say, then base it off another reputable company, I'll go with Kingston or Corsair. I'm not sure how many more passes it'll run but it's finished with 0 and at 100% of pass 1. Another day wasted 😞

I'll begin looking for new RAM locally anyways. One question: is this memory issue the culprit of all my remaining problems? Okay another question: Was my AMD Sapphire HD 7950 even faulty or was the RAM issue causing that too?

[Zka17]

Lugh Azreak wrote:
is this memory issue the culprit of all my remaining problems?

Not sure... but it's a good candidate...

[Zero_exe]

Yet ANOTHER person having issues with RipJaws ram... Ive been on here for over a month, and have mentally recorded 6+ or so different threads of issues, all ram related, all either Gskill or corsair. o_O ...

If your looking for good reliable Ram, heres what i use:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226223 Bought two kits =16Gb. Running in ROG Crosshair 5
Also, Ran this ram in GigaShyt... i mean Gigabyte 990FX Ud-7 and worked well in their too.

Haven't used this, but it looks bad ass:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226221

so if you DO have to replace your ram, i highly recommend what im currently running.

If your in canada, canada computers is slightly cheaper
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_613&item_id=040437


EDIT::
Check this forum, scroll down to the 7 reply. Read the next 2 reply's after it
http://www.overclock.net/t/652524/corsair-xms3-g-skill-ripjaws-or-mushkin-redline

[Silver_Wolf]

Of course you will see lots of issues with G.Skill and Corsair as they are 2 of the most popular brands of RAM but that doesn't make them bad. I have been running corsair ram since I did my first build and never had an issue (Except for the occasional pebkac not pushing them in far enough XD).

This may just be because I'm an Aussie but until I came here I had never heard of Mushkin at all and none of my usual suppliers sell their products. 6+ issues in about a month isn't much and doesn't make Corsair or G.Skill bad brands nor does it make Mushkin better.


Back to the original topic,

My only advice is to continue on your current path. Speaking to G.Skill will certainly help your case along, as with Zka I can only speculate currently as to whether you RAM is the culprit but currently it is the most likely so work through that one and hope that 10 others don't appear from underneath it. Sorry it's not particularly helpful.

[X-ROG]

Sorry my details might not be correct and this advise maybe given before, but it's hard to follow exactly after 5 pages:

You bought 2x16GB kits of 2400? It's recommended not to by two kits and put them together to make 1 big kit. Even if they are the same kit from the same company it might not work because they haven't been qualified together. Slight variances in the ICs, especially at high frequency can make the system unstable.

Are you trying to run them at 2400? Are you sure the CPU IMC is capable of it? Remember not every CPU can do.

XMP doesn't cover some 2nd and no 3rd tier timings. You might need to loosen these beyond 2133 to make it stable. I don't know enough about this to advise but it's what I hear often from OCers like Raja and Shamino.

Another route of investigation is to try 2/4 DIMMs together to check if it's DIMM density issue, IMC issue or memory issue.

[Lugh_Azreak]

Wow Marshall, I'm interested in hearing more about what you know, or rather what Raja and Shamino know. I've not been using the 2nd kit for a while now, and as for what speed they are running at I have no idea, also I don't have a clue what the rest of your comment means. I'm not sure what a CPU IMC is, I have XMP runnning but don't really understand it, and I don't know what tier timings are either. I certainly don't know how to loosen them.

Do you think you can walk me through the three investigations you mentioned?

[Zka17]

Until MarshallR comes back...

IMC = internal memory controller - As your CPU is rated at 1333/1600 (not sure right now) by the manufacturer (Intel) it's not 100% that will work at higher frequencies.

The timings are the memory's parameter, beside the frequency and voltage. Usually, when you're looking for them, only the first level (tier) timings are shared... sometimes only CAS latency... They (the memories) have second and third level timings too... - but we, the everyday users don't really care about them... They still can cause problems though...