Cases confusion

[Arabicuser]

Hi again,

I still didn't complete one system even i use one now, but i am now wasting over $3000 because i built 3 computers instead of 1 or 2.

Well, 2 days ago i went to buy few things for my first and second build computers, and i bought one case, but i feel it is not a great one, the problem with it is the water cooling system that it came with, the case is Thermaltake Level 10 GT LCS, the design is not bad and even the case inside is not bad, but i rushed and bought it expensive with water cooling system, i shouldn't go with that, i read some reviews and it shows that the cooling system is not so great, so i don't know what i can do with this case, i don't know if i can return it, but if not then i will use it for my Gigabyte mobo not with my Asus RIVE mobo, then which case i should get?
If i return this case then what i should buy for my first build RIVE and second one Gigabyte? I will keep my Thermaltake Overseer for the third build, or if i buy one cheap for the third then i keep this Overseer for the second one.

[chrsplmr]

Easy bro .. hahhaa .. one build can drive any mortal insane .. you have three going @ once things are
bound to get hectic and confusing .. relax. Enjoy the ride.

As to the cooling 'not being so great' :
I haven't seen anything here on the forum about this case, but a quick read down the feedback
@ newegg and in all honesty I would have some concerns as well.
Many simply love the GT but I found No love for the LCS model .. none.
If you just bought the case and it is packed as original I see no reason you could not
return it, especially as part of an exchange or store credit. (always useful)

Im addicted to the CoolerMasterStormTrooper myself .. but it would be helpful
to first decide your cooling solution and how you are going to go about it.
(Custom or Closed Loop).

What is the 3rd build .. MB ? and what are your intentions for each of these builds?

[Arabicuser]

chrsplmr wrote:
Easy bro .. hahhaa .. one build can drive any mortal insane .. you have three going @ once things are
bound to get hectic and confusing .. relax. Enjoy the ride.

As to the cooling 'not being so great' :
I haven't seen anything here on the forum about this case, but a quick read down the feedback
@ newegg and in all honesty I would have some concerns as well.
Many simply love the GT but I found No love for the LCS model .. none.
If you just bought the case and it is packed as original I see no reason you could not
return it, especially as part of an exchange or store credit. (always useful)

Im addicted to the CoolerMasterStormTrooper myself .. but it would be helpful
to first decide your cooling solution and how you are going to go about it.
(Custom or Closed Loop).

What is the 3rd build .. MB ? and what are your intentions for each of these builds?

Yes, the case is still inside the box sealed and i didn't open it yet, and i called them twice, first time someone told me it is not possible, but second time the person another one told me to call again in the morning tomorrow if i look for another case as he is going to check out if it is in stock, well, i may go for Cooler Master HAF X, or what about same this one of Thermaltake but the GT one not LCS? That CM Storm Trooper looks promising or decent, but is there a better one that that if available?

Until now i don't know at all which cooling solution i want to go with, i am very very much leaning towards Corsair H100i [i model not 100], and i said before that some recommended me to go with Noctua but i really don't like this tool from the look [not for performance as it may beat that Corsair one], i have Corsair H60 on my i7-3930K and it is working fine but i didn't overclock it at all yet, that is with Gigabyte X79 MB, so i can't be sure it will be dead if i OC the CPU and the MB, i am going to replace that Gigabyte with Asus RIVE and will buy later i7-3820 for this Gigabyte X79, so i am not sure that H60 will be adequate on the 3930K+RIVE, i was more thinking about H100i on that combo and i may keep H60 for GA-X79-UD5+ i7-3820 combo or the third build.

The third build is with ASRock Z77-Pro3, so this is the only Z77 build i will have. The intentions of each will be general, gaming, photos processing, video editing, and normal daily things, but i was planning to have my first build for heavy games current and future and video world, and i forced to build the second because i bought Gigabyte and i wanted so badly to have Asus MB so that second will be almost as backup and say test machine for the first one, i will try not to overdone the first and fill it with many many files from here and there and downloads, so the second will be like a test station/filtration of what i want to use on my first rig, and the third will be for my kids, i will not let them bother me with my first rig and also i can't trust them what they will do with my first rig, so the third is for them and maybe sometimes i can let them use the second if the third one is not powerful enough for some new games as i may use i5 on that third as some recommended me instead of i7 and also i was going for cheap good GPU that can play new games at low/min settings mostly.

[Arabicuser]

I am attaching a PDF file of the builds customisation i am thinking about, if you have any comments about it please let me know.

Also i was looking at those 3 cooling options from a website, what can you tell me about those 3 options?

http://uae.souq.com/ae-en/thermaltake-frio-advanced-5131109/i/

http://uae.souq.com/ae-en/thermaltake-frioock-5131097/i/

http://uae.souq.com/ae-en/thermaltake-frio-extreme-5130961/i/

[Chino]

The Noctua is a very good heatsink when it comes to air cooling. But you will have problems with certain RAM because of their tall heatsinks. It most cases you can take off the heatsinks yourself but what's the point in buying cool looking RAM just to remove them, right? LOL If you won't be doing any hardcore overclocking, the Corsair H100i will be more than enough. And it'll fit in most modern cases that can house a 240mm radiator.

Personally I've never liked the TT Level 10. I find it ugly and expensive lol. The HAF-X is a very nice case. Best in its class when it comes to air cooling. Other cases that I personally like and I can recommend are the Cooler Master Stryker, Corsair 800D, NZXT Switch 810, and the Corsair 600T White Edition.

[Arabicuser]

Chino wrote:
The Noctua is a very good heatsink when it comes to air cooling. But you will have problems with certain RAM because of their tall heatsinks. It most cases you can take off the heatsinks yourself but what's the point in buying cool looking RAM just to remove them, right? LOL If you won't be doing any hardcore overclocking, the Corsair H100i will be more than enough. And it'll fit in most modern cases that can house a 240mm radiator.

Personally I've never liked the TT Level 10. I find it ugly and expensive lol. The HAF-X is a very nice case. Best in its class when it comes to air cooling. Other cases that I personally like and I can recommend are the Cooler Master Stryker, Corsair 800D, NZXT Switch 810, and the Corsair 600T White Edition.

OK, about the case then i will return that Level 10LCS and i will go with one of the options you gave me that if i can find them available, but i liked the design of that CM Stryker but not the color, i am not a fan of white color case at all, and Corsair is one with white color i don't like and the other 800D design i don't like so as that NZXT Switch 810 too, so only HAF X and Stryker won my vote for design.

Well, i was looking for to do some kind of OCing, extreme or not with i7-3930K RIVE, so i am worry about your post showing that H100i may not be doing the job right for crazy OC then.

[GOR52]

Arabicuser wrote:
Hi again,

I still didn't complete one system even i use one now, but i am now wasting over $3000 because i built 3 computers instead of 1 or 2.

Well, 2 days ago i went to buy few things for my first and second build computers, and i bought one case, but i feel it is not a great one, the problem with it is the water cooling system that it came with, the case is Thermaltake Level 10 GT LCS, the design is not bad and even the case inside is not bad, but i rushed and bought it expensive with water cooling system, i shouldn't go with that, i read some reviews and it shows that the cooling system is not so great, so i don't know what i can do with this case, i don't know if i can return it, but if not then i will use it for my Gigabyte mobo not with my Asus RIVE mobo, then which case i should get?
If i return this case then what i should buy for my first build RIVE and second one Gigabyte? I will keep my Thermaltake Overseer for the third build, or if i buy one cheap for the third then i keep this Overseer for the second one.

Hi,
Can I be brutally honest with you?
I have been following your recent posts here.
By what I have observed, there is no chassis confusion, but a confused potential buyer.
You have enough $$$$ to spend but very undecided what components to purchase.
My recommendation would be for you to do a lot of internet research and narrow down your options. Then come back to the forum and get help to make the final decision. At this stage all the answers you are getting here are making you more confused. Believe me, its true...you are so undecided bro.I can also make you more confused as computer chassis are concerned. Example, I could suggest you to return that chassis and get this one:
http://azzatek.com/csaz-9000.html
I bet you like it (Black or White). I would love to have the black one, but at moment not enough $$$$. If you feel generous, I can allways give you my delivery address 😉

[Arabicuser]

GOR52 wrote:
Hi,
Can I be brutally honest with you?
I have been following your recent posts here.
By what I have observed, there is no chassis confusion, but a confused potential buyer.
You have enough $$$$ to spend but very undecided what components to purchase.
My recommendation would be for you to do a lot of internet research and narrow down your options. Then come back to the forum and get help to make the final decision. At this stage all the answers you are getting here are making you more confused. Believe me, its true...you are so undecided bro.I can also make you more confused as computer chassis are concerned. Example, I could suggest you to return that chassis and get this one:
http://azzatek.com/csaz-9000.html
I bet you like it (Black or White). I would love to have the black one, but at moment not enough $$$$. If you feel generous, I can allways give you my delivery address 😉

Thanks for your reply.

Well, the confusion mostly come when i ask about say 2-4 models and others giving me another 5 models then i choose say 3 out of maybe 9 models, then by sudden i find out that none are available in my area or say the least exciting case is available and the best design or performance wise one is not available, so then i re-think or keep searching, and also sometimes you recommend me one good item but when i go to buy it then the salesman there telling me a different story such as that this item is no popular and not much selling or low demand, so i always keep my decision on others either on the net or by salesmen.

About that case you gave me the link, yes i like the design and only i want the black, but maybe it is not available in my country, i will write down that model and call the tomorrow and check out if it is available, but let's say if it is available, do you say that this case is amazing and great one comparing to some of what i mentioned above [Cooler Master, Thermaltake, Corsair,..etc]?

[GOR52]

Arabicuser wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

Well, the confusion mostly come when i ask about say 2-4 models and others giving me another 5 models then i choose say 3 out of maybe 9 models, then by sudden i find out that none are available in my area or say the least exciting case is available and the best design or performance wise one is not available, so then i re-think or keep searching, and also sometimes you recommend me one good item but when i go to buy it then the salesman there telling me a different story such as that this item is no popular and not much selling or low demand, so i always keep my decision on others either on the net or by salesmen.

About that case you gave me the link, yes i like the design and only i want the black, but maybe it is not available in my country, i will write down that model and call the tomorrow and check out if it is available, but let's say if it is available, do you say that this case is amazing and great one comparing to some of what i mentioned above [Cooler Master, Thermaltake, Corsair,..etc]?

Well, some of my components are not available in my country, and I have to import them. I am sure there are online businesses in your country that will do the importing for you...they will charge a premuim (profit, customs duties, etc) above the normal price but it it is worth it.
Your country is very hot and I don't know about your room temperature (Do you have aircon all over the house?). The case I suggested to you, is a big case, lots of airflow. I am not an Azzatek rep either, but those cases are not mainstream. They belong to a niche market. And don't listen to that salesperson of yours...it seems that person is only interested in selling and not servicing your needs.
Don't let others confuse you...it is all a matter how you feel inside. If you feel you still confused, do not rush...it is better to wait than jumping into something you regret at a later stage.

[Arabicuser]

GOR52 wrote:
Well, some of my components are not available in my country, and I have to import them. I am sure there are online businesses in your country that will do the importing for you...they will charge a premuim (profit, customs duties, etc) above the normal price but it it is worth it.
Your country is very hot and I don't know about your room temperature (Do you have aircon all over the house?). The case I suggested to you, is a big case, lots of airflow. I am not an Azzatek rep either, but those cases are not mainstream. They belong to a niche market. And don't listen to that salesperson of yours...it seems that person is only interested in selling and not servicing your needs.
Don't let others confuse you...it is all a matter how you feel inside. If you feel you still confused, do not rush...it is better to wait than jumping into something you regret at a later stage.

True, that is why i ask a lot here and there, and i never put a budget as an issue, because honestly speaking, 90% of recommendations are based on budget even if i never talk about budget or mention it, so sometimes i go with something because it is cheap for people but it has limits for me, in this case i want all recommendations regarding the performance and value/budget then i can decide what i should go with.

I try to avoid shipping overseas by online order, it will take time and also it will charge me more if it exceeds some budget due to our rules, so i always try to check out our local market if i can find, sometimes i also buy locally even if it is little bit more pricey than oversees with shipping+duties because of warranty and fast getting it on time rather than waiting 4-10 days.

About that case, i must order it online as i think it is not available in my country, but i really like to go with Cooler Master HAF X or 9xx model, i found another site of a local online store, and they sell Cooler Master case including HAF X, so i feel i should go with that rather than i decide on your Azzatek and recharging my CC and order it online for first time from one of the stores available and then waiting, and maybe at the end this case may not be day and night difference than Cooler Master, but i will read more about it and wait a bit until i can decide if i must order online and wait or go with what i can find suitable available in my area.

here is the link i found today
http://uae.dtcae.com/computer_cases/-/1-0-24/1/cooler-master/