What ever happend to .....

[AmunRa90]

...The good old days when you felt so drawn in a game story that you didn't care about the flaws. When you could sit in front of your PC just filled with excitement because the story was so god dam good and it sucked you in. Sure the graphics where nowhere as good as today, but still you felt the adrenaline and joy streaming through your body because you where just enjoying the game too much to even care about your wife giving birth.

Sure there are loads of games today that has good game play and super extreme graphics. But up to this date I never find any good new games that has a awesome story (Gears of Wars being a exception , dam I cried so much)
I remember when I fired up Quake on my old pc. Starting as a Marine invading to later be turned into a machine, it was taken straight out of my head. Your gameplay changes and it makes the gamer feel completely different. It makes you feel special in a way.

Now days when I jump into a game I never get the same ruse as I did before. The companies just pump out games with no solid story/Gadgets/ new mechanics. Could this be that all the stuff has already been done once? Or are the developers just tired of coming up with new stuff?

If a new game would arrive with a really good story and some new game mechanics, I wouldn't care if the Graphics engine is outdated. Heck I would play it even if it had the same graphics as Doom 3 , as long as it grabbed me by the throat and said "PLAY ME" in the form of gameplay. Where your eyes can't let go of the screen one single moment because your afraid you miss something.

Yours~ AmunRa

[Arne_Saknussemm]

Exactly the same thing has happened in Hollywood and as far as I know Microsoft have no movie theaters. This is what happens when heads of companies (studios; both film and game) come from accounting instead of the art department. Accountants don't take risks. They will much prefer to launch a sequel or rehash some already done to death genre than innovate which carries risk. Real artistic talent doesn't have this mindset and therefore impediment. Unfortunately the people that run Hollywood and game companies now are accounts clerks and are are more afraid of failure than they are interested in offering something new. Zygomorphic has it right...fear leads to paralysis. The accountants are so busy hiring focus groups and courting political correctness that they run roughshod over the creatives in the industry.

A ray of hope for the future? http://www.kickstarter.com/ and their projects like http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity Gamers directly funding game projects. This may give the creative side a chance to flourish again.

[Zygomorphic]

Arne Saknussemm wrote:
Exactly the same thing has happened in Hollywood and as far as I know Microsoft have no movie theaters. This is what happens when heads of companies (studios; both film and game) come from accounting instead of the art department. Accountants don't take risks. They will much prefer to launch a sequel or rehash some already done to death genre than innovate which carries risk. Real artistic talent doesn't have this mindset and therefore impediment. Unfortunately the people that run Hollywood and game companies now are accounts clerks and are are more afraid of failure than they are interested in offering something new. Zygomorphic has it right...fear leads to paralysis. The accountants are so busy hiring focus groups and courting political correctness that they run roughshod over the creatives in the industry.

A ray of hope for the future? http://www.kickstarter.com/ and their projects like http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity Gamers directly funding game projects. This may give the creative side a chance to flourish again.

@Arne, I need to pull admin privileges and give you a +10 rep for that post. A lot of innovation struggles when you get accountants and bean-counters into high-up management...then again, innovation struggles when you have high-up management. Look at Apple, ole Stevie was a slick marketer and had a good eye and care for detail - it paid off hugely.

I would love to see more open-source games, they aren't driven by costs...but by the people who actually make the games. Sure the graphics aren't as good, but we could see story that drives the graphics, rather than graphics drive a story. I think what we all are wishing for is story-telling to come back to games...rather than interactive Hollywood.

[PlaneName]

Yeah the game's we have today are rubbish. I couldn't even finish the Assassin series, it's just this boredom of these story's and gameplay by Ubisoft. I was a Fallout fan, I did not play Fallout 1 or 2 but I played Fallout Tactics, one of the best games I did really enjoyed. I love the gameplay, especially the single player story, the graphics were great. I was very excited for Fallout 3 but I realize it's an RPG on FPS when it should have not been. The game mechanics really works on RPG RTS in Fallout Tactics. Fallout 3 was just disappointing. Yes XCOM is somewhere like Fallout Tactics but I don't like that gameplay, where you wait for your opponent next turn and so on.

The only games, I really enjoyed was the Mass Effect series. Arne, yes those the games is what I'm waiting for especially the Project Eternity, it seems very promising. I really wan't a company that redo the fallout series or make a similar game like Fallout Tactics in RTS not FPS with a great story line!

I still play Fallout Tactics! 😄

[Myk_SilentShado]

I've been doing some thinking before putting in another post here in this thread. Yes the makers of the games are to blame for a lack of story-line...but there is an even bigger problem to this whole thing that we seem to have forgotten about and that is - the majority of gamers across the world. Gamers like any consumer group; push and push for greater detail, better physics etc etc. Ok I will admit, if it wasn't for "us" gamers they wouldn't look anything as good as they do now, because of our demands on what we want in games and unfortunately these demands have ultimately cost us great story lines to fully immerse us into the games we play.

Visually, I don't think games can really look much better..but that is just my opinion...well, at least until the next big thing in screens comes out and resets the standard for visuals (i'm thinking the 4K res screens). Gaming visuals have pretty much hit a plateau, sure there are probably some things that will get done to make the games look even more realistic, but personally I think it's time the game makers go back to the story lines and bring out truly stunning games, visually and story line to boot.

[sectionate]

What killed video games is when they cared about how many pixels they could use rather the the actually game play. Thats why your nintendo nes is still the best thing on the market

[AmunRa90]

sectionate wrote:
What killed video games is when they cared about how many pixels they could use rather the the actually game play. Thats why your nintendo nes is still the best thing on the market

Agreed. Not a huge fan of the NES but I have to say I played that aaalooooot. Somehow it got stuck in my heart.

Come to think of it, DayZ is a perfect example of someone creating a 'game' because he had a great idea and didn't really care about the graphics . Sure it's a mod, and hes using the Arma 2 Engine and Content. But still look at how peeps flock to this because it was a original idea with a very good concept. I can smell the originality from the good old days in this game.

And yo Silent Shadow.

I think that right now the Games has hit the edge of the mountain. Either they keep on climbing and focuses on what gamers really like, Or they will all off the edge because they have no steady fan base and crash and burn.

Soon the Graphics will hit a stand off . Where nobody is making the "prettiest" games . You can already notice small companies catching up to the big ones. Games you never heard of now has matching sets of specs for games.

Example Dishonord. Decent game. They came up with something new. Sure graphics where kinda good. But they added a layer of waterpaint on it saying "Hey we don't care, this is our style"

[Zygomorphic]

@Myk, that is all too true. I loved the older adventure games (KQ7, anyone) as they had the epitome of good graphics and a great story. Loved it...wish we could see something more like that. Maybe ROG should pull together and create a game of our own?

[AmunRa90]

Zygomorphic wrote:
@Myk, that is all too true. I loved the older adventure games (KQ7, anyone) as they had the epitome of good graphics and a great story. Loved it...wish we could see something more like that. Maybe ROG should pull together and create a game of our own?

Yeah imagine that *drewls*