Debate of the best MOBA game, is it LoL, DOTA 2, or something else? [Battle #3]

[Bahz]

UPDATE:
We'll be postponing the winners announcement to Dec 30th, the winners for Battle #3 will be posted up on ROG Website


The third battle is a new type of battle; it’s a “debate.” Share with us your thoughts on which game title you feel is the true champion of MOBA games. The obvious choices are LoL (League of Legends) and DOTA 2, but is there something else that belongs in this discussion?

This battle begins on December 8th 2016 at 8:00pm (UTC+8) and ends on December 22nd 2016 at 8:00pm (UTC+8).

Don’t just share your choice, tell us why and prove it with your passion for the game! Only one submission for this topic but you may discuss and debate with others to earn additional entries for the grand prize draw.

See prizes and complete rules below:

Biweekly battle topic prizes

1st Prize – ROG Goodies Box (filled with a ton of exclusive ROG swag)
2nd Prize – Mafia 3 Game Code (digital game code)
3rd Prize – Mafia 3 Game Code (digital game code)
4th Prize – Mafia 3 Game Code (digital game code)

Grand Prizes (draw will take place between January 5th 2017 – Janurary 11th 2017)


Rules

• Provide your answer on which game title you think is the best MOBA game and provide your reasoning and facts to back it up. Only entries that meet these criteria will be considered a valid entry.
  
• Limit one entry per person for the biweekly prize draw but no limit for additional entries for the grand prize draw
  
• Additional qualified replies/comments will earn you additional entries for the grand prize draw. All additional qualified replies/comments on this thread or the other 3 battle topic threads will be accepted as additional entries up until January 4th 2017
  
• Qualified replies/comments must have substance and not 1-2 word replies and are helpful in carrying forward the discussion. The eligibility of each reply/comment will be determined by our ROG forum admins.
  
• Winners will be announced on the ROG website 4 days after the conclusion of the battle (December 30th 2016).
  
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For complete rules for this campaign, please visit the official campaign thread:
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[DJFulcrum]

altereDad wrote:
Seems like DOTA2 has a commanding lead. I'm giggling at the LoL crowd

Yeah, and the LoL crowd is pretty silent on the elaboration like the in-depth discussions the DOTA 2 crowd is having. I wish that I played these two games more though, so that I could also contribute my 2 cents. I must say though, richly learned about DOTA 2 here.

I am currently thinking about giving Gigantic a go to compare with Paragon. The two seems to be very similar, but Paragon is more third-person MOBA where Gigantic is more shooter with MOBA elements.

[MartinDraganov]

I've tried both LoL and DOTA2, and I was just never drawn into them. I guess I value a story more than a battle arena.

[felixline0411]

Well..Well...Well..
i think Dota 2 best MOBA game...
Why ? ....
i Like dota 2 graphic + many choice of skill +item
after patch 7.00...
its god damn different
but i like it..
2 bounty rune spot for each team that will make our support easier 2 get golds...
connector between offlane with the jungle ( make us think twice how we ganke / from where we will gank enemy )[ITS TEAM PLAY]
more skill upgradeable that will make us think twice which one will we choose 2 counter enmy hero and etc.
thats all
BES MOBA GAME STILL DOTA 2

[laranje]

LoL :
I think that LoL is better than DOTA2. I've played LoL for 2 years and played DOTA2 maybe only 10 games. For the gameplay,I think LoL harder than DOTA2. Coz, LoL prioritizing Skill first. For the example skillshot on LoL you have to aim the target manually. Another case in Dota2 you can use skillshot automatically (my experience playing Luna Moonfang). So, in this case i think DOTA2 easier than LoL.
Other reason why i love to play LoL is there are many interesting changes each patch(buff/nerf to champion skill/item) which is made that game more interesting, merry Xmas !

[piciusz]

Dota2 is well established and for me Lol is too cartoonish so that's one of the reasons why i like Dota2 better

[HiVan]

piciusz wrote:
Dota2 is well established and for me Lol is too cartoonish so that's one of the reasons why i like Dota2 better

Yeah, a lot of people said that to me as well. League is indeed cartoonish and can be played by almost any PC with integrated GPU at the very least. Haha. No complaints about how it's designed tho. 😄

[SadGhost]

Best MOBA for me is Dota 2. Dota 2 is my answer because I enjoy playing it everytime, no rest for my passion of this game. Dota 2 becomes the bonding moments for me and my brother that doesn't live in the same home anymore. I've become friends with others because of this game. And everytime I play I make sure that my teammates and even my enemies that they enjoyed our fight to make us more proud about our talent in this game. Even though I suffer from slow internet connection, I always find a way to play my favorite game and share the moment with my friends. Dota 2 will always be my game, even the latest change/patch will not make me hate or leave this game.

[leopretorius]

Yuten wrote:
Dota 2. Though my heart is begging me to actually say:"DOTA 2 EZ GGWP!!!"

Well let's breakdown what "best" means:
1) Overall enjoyment
2) Game design
3)Upkeep and Improvement
4)Visuals (Graphics)
5)Community and how it's controlled

I'm basing my analysis on these statistics supported by MY OWN thoughts.

I have sampled quite a lot of MOBA's but stuck with Dota 2 because it gave me a much better experience and enjoyment.

1) Being a warcraft all stars player Dota 2 has come a LONG way from it ancestor.
I enjoyed All stars because it was, at a stage, the only one of its kind and became very skilled at it. After sampling Dota 2 and various other MOBA games, my heart still stuck to my "1st love" simply because Valve took an amazing game... and made it better.
The graphics are better, mechanics are smoother and the community is larger... which means less waiting for matches and more playing.

2) The design of the game is flawless. There are very few bugs in the game and if one gets spotted, Valve quickly eradicates it to make the game fair. The fact that you have a hero that has no equal in the game makes it much more dynamic which contributes to anti picking (Making it way more competitive and sensitive).
There is NO hero that cannot be countered because of the vast spells and items each hero has and can gain respectively. In LoL, 90% of all spells are AOE and Skill shots (Target Point) which I REALLY enjoy but it becomes redundant when every player has the option for a "flash" and can use it at any given time, Dota 2 wins in this sense and ironically makes hero positioning that much more valuable. There is so much more I could talk about with the mechanics of Dota 2 but eventually people are gonna get bored of all the reading. One thing I particularly love about Dota 2 is that if you are a newbee, or if you are part of the Clan "Newbee", you both have an exact 50% chance of winning. I don't like the way a player gets better stats that helps in game just because you've played longer than others... Dota 2 take real skill and skill only to be good in the game, not relying on a "+2% attack speed with every hero because your player level is 9". All of the above I believe is better than any other Moba.

3)There are a lot of Moba''s but Dota definitely has the most updates. Sometimes annoying but necessary. When an update arrives it's usually visual items and alterations with hero skills and in game shop items. The alterations are VERY sensitively applied if Valve feel a hero/item is a bit too week/powerful and 90% of the time, the community agrees with the updates.
The visual items (sets) that come with the update are always gorgeous and most are affordable. What really caught me here is that there are THOUSANDS of items that are player created, giving people who have an artistic side a chance to grow their skill and make some money on the side. I have never been disconnected in Dota 2 due to server maintenance. If there is some to be done, you can continue your game and, once it's done, wait a very short while until the server is up and running again. One thing that I can say that I do NOT like about Dota 2 is that it takes a VERY long time to release new heroes, but with all my previous points I can wait :D.

4) Graphics, well I'll just summarize this one:
Best graphics in a MOBA with ratio to its visual theme (Artwork is closest to the aimed style).
Has the best GUI and Home screen vs other MOBAs.
Players can customize GUI/HUD, Map Theme, Heroes, Map Weather.
New to Dota 2 which I have yet to test is Dota VR which I expect will be amazing.

5) The Dota 2 community is full of all types of players like any MOBA. My main point in this section is to highlight that Dota 2 was only released in 2013, which makes it 3 years old, and it already has a much bigger player database than any other MOBA (including LoL which was released in 2009 making it 7 years old) If it wasn't the best MOBA, why are so many people playing it? xD
There are Bans and Mutes and AFK bans and so forth. Dota 2 has a control system that cannot really be abused. There are Mutes and Bans and etc... but it will only take effect if a pattern occurs with a player so, don't swear or feed too much cuz you'll get restricted :). If you feel you have been restricted for any reason, you can contact steam support and they will help you with how they feel is fair.

Overall Dota 2 is just an amazing game. I play every single day and I do so because it is extremely fun, I'm addicted to its competition, want to learn more about it and get better at it and meet new people from it.

I think many other people will agree with me after reading my essay xD.

Thank you for reading and all comments welcome within reason.

Quite a nice review, really like the points you made except "EZ" that is toxic to the DOTA community.

[Quoth]

none of the above, MOBA are the worst

[CouZou420]

To me League of Legends is the best game.
It bring joy in playing and it never gets boring.
The true concept of the game is to bring players together as teammates to take down objectives and win games.
A game where the developers and the community care about eachother.
Every month we have interesting gamemodes and stuff.
League is a game u can play with friends all around the world and that is how i met my girlfriend..
League realy does bring people together..