12-08-2024 07:22 AM - edited 12-17-2024 09:40 AM
Hi,
There is a clear drop in brightness on gray gradient - mostly white pixel gradient - RG or B gradients seem mostly OK. This is all in SDR and happens with all color modes including the native "Wide Gamut" mode. The lower the monitor brightness settings the bigger the problem. It has to be addressed via firmware, there is no other way to solve it 100%, because most windows apps ignore color profiles. If this issue can't be fixed via firmware (which I doubt), we need ASUS to come clean and say that they won't fix this.
This is happening on all XG27AQDMG monitors. I've seen two and both have the same problem, plus there are multiple threads both on this forum and Reddit.
The only partial solution, which "fixes" it by changing gamma, is here: https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13659&sid=7f3f0c88070ac26ed81faab4901db4d2
This gradient problem changes with monitor brightness settings and slightly with monitor frequency! It's the least visible on maximum 240Hz and maximum brightness without Uniform Brightness. The worst case scenario is <120Hz and Uniform Brightness below 50% (which is what most PC users use). Switching from HDMI to DP has no effect.
I've seen these monitors with MCM102, MCM103 and MCM104. No change at all.
ASUS DO SOMETHING, PLEASE, FIX THIS in next firmware!
XG27AQDMG broken gradient
LG C1 vs ASUS XG27AQDMG
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12-20-2024 03:28 PM
LoL this monitor is such a trash. Even watching TV shows is total pain 🙂
Considering how ASUS has ignored this issue so far, I’d strongly recommend everyone to steer clear of this monitor. They know exactly why they’re discounting it so heavily... they know they’ve f*ked it up. I'll wait for one more FW update and then I'll get rid of it.
This was captured on 144Hz and 25% brightness.
12-21-2024 02:58 AM
I really can’t believe that ASUS answer…
I understand that now in Christmas holidays they won’t FW update, but if they don't acknowledge the problem at least…
01-10-2025 02:18 AM - edited 01-10-2025 02:18 AM
So I have an update for anyone still interested in this issue. In short, they are either completely incompetent or trying to sweep this issue under the rug. I've exchanged multiple (way too much) emails with their support and they are denying there is any form of issue. This looks like a 100% scam and they have NO WILL TO FIX ANYTHING. So STAY AWAY FROM THIS MONITOR AND STAY AWAY FROM ASUS.
Below you can find continuation of my communication with ASUS support:
Customer (sent them multiple photos from this thread and the other one on this forums):
Hello,
The images and description of the issue were included in the forum links I provided in my initial inquiry.
The problem manifests in gradients close to black (around 10% RGB brightness depending on the monitor). It’s most visible in SDR with Uniform Brightness enabled and brightness set to 40%, but it occurs to a lesser extent with any settings.
I’m attaching the requested images as files.
Once again, here’s a link to one of the threads where this issue has been reported by many users:
https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/gaming-monitors/xg27aqdmg-insane-banding-posterization/td-p/1054736
Support:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for the images. However, the global team still requires the original source image as a specific file. This is needed for them to replicate the issue by displaying the same image on their monitor. Could you please send this image?
Customer: (sent them original screenshots they requested)
Hello,
I’m attaching images where the issue is clearly visible. There shouldn’t be any noticeable “steps” in gradients. The problem is evident even on a typical 256-gradient test, where in darker shades (depending on the monitor’s brightness) there’s a noticeable drop in brightness (“step”) around the RGB code 20-20-20. The issue mainly concerns the white subpixel and its contribution to the final color.
To reiterate, the worst cases occur with:
Additional details can be found in the links to the ASUS forums I’ve already sent multiple times.
Support:
Dear Customer,
We’ve received feedback from the headquarters that they still cannot replicate the issue on their monitor. They’re requesting a screenshot of the screen and a photograph of the monitor to compare how the same screenshot appears on their monitor versus yours. Please send a screenshot of an image that is displayed incorrectly on your monitor and include a photo showing how your monitor displays it.
Customer (sent them both original screenshot + screen photo):
Hello,
Frankly, I’m losing patience. Is this some sort of cat-and-mouse game to see who gives up first? Are you trying to sweep this issue under the rug? I’ve already sent you these images – both the screen photo and the original screenshot – multiple times, in various forms. Moreover, all of these are included in the posts on the ASUS forums, along with additional photos from other users, which I’ve also linked to you several times.
Attached, again, are the screen photo and the original screenshot. I hope you at least remember the settings I’ve sent in previous emails and won’t, for a change, ask for them again.
Let me repeat: the point where the gradient “breaks” depends on the brightness of the white subpixel, which is tied to the monitor’s brightness setting. If I receive one more email stating that the issue cannot be replicated or that additional information is needed, I will consider this entire case an attempt to scam customers. I will also demand a refund, as this is a defective product without the possibility of repair.
01-11-2025 08:02 AM
The issue is mitigated when using 6 bit temporal dither on Nvidia GPUs. You can set that in novideo_srgb's "advanced" settings. 8-bit and 10-bit dither don't help much if at all. 6 bit does.
01-15-2025 06:39 PM - edited 01-15-2025 06:54 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, this is (most likely) my final post about me contacting ASUS customer support (ever again?). I've received this latest email and according to them, there is no issue or "can't see it on photos" and even arguing that photos have higher brightness - well no sh*t, these are overexposed photos to clearly see the gradient brightness drop. Now it's obvious that ASUS is deliberately sweeping this issue under the rug, and it's very unlikely they'll ever fix this.
Here is the final email I've received:
"Dear Customer,
We have received information from the headquarters that this issue does not appear on their monitor and that testing in this manner is inconclusive. The photo of the monitor you sent has a much higher brightness compared to the screenshot, which could be due to monitor settings or the camera, but this does not match the output that the headquarters has. The gradient on the screenshot is also not entirely smooth and is divided into individual concentric ellipses.
We recommend sending the monitor in for warranty service. This way, it will be measured and tested in the service center. You can arrange this through your dealer or by filling out a repair request at the following link: https://eu-rma.asus.com/. The product will then be transported to the service center by courier.
Best regards"
01-15-2025 06:49 PM
Solution?
Do not buy this monitor. If you have bough it and see this issue, return it immediately. Do not even bother talking to ASUS support, it will be total waste of your precious time.
I've already switched to AOC AG276QZD2, which has absolutely perfect colors in SDR and I'm 100% happy with it.
Dear ASUS,
I did all I could, but your incompetence has just cost you another customer.
01-16-2025 06:08 AM
Unfortunately this is also a very severe problem with the PG32UCDP, as I have posted here for those who are interested. It appears this is a more general problem with ASUS and WOLED as others (especially LG) have this fixed / compensated for within their firmware. 😞